Changes: Thunder (Robin)

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For the move used by Pikachu and Pichu, see Thunder (Pokémon)

Thunder is is Robin's Neutral Special Move. It is used for four different spells (Thunder, Elthunder, Arcthunder and Thoron), where Robin releases a different variation of a thunder spell depending on the charge

Overview

Thunder has a value of 20 durability and reappears after roughly 9 seconds. However, its durability can be "surpassed". If the player has used up to 19 of its durability value, he or she still can charge it for a Thoron spell, making the Thunder tome worth effectively 27 uses in this way. Each variant of Thunder has a different consumption of durability. After its usage, Robin discards the tome, which can be caught and used as a throwable item.

Thunder

Thunder (サンダー) has a value of 1 tome use. Robin throws a small ball of electricity, which does minor damage and travels a short distance. Thunder deals slight knockback and damage., making it only useful as a quick tool to relive pressure from close opponents.

Elthunder

Elthunder (エルサンダー) has a value of three tome uses. It is similar to Thunder where Robin shoots a bigger bolt of electricity for more damage and knockback. Elthunder is useful as a poking tool due to its increased damage and knockback.

Arcthunder

Arcthunder (ギガサンダー) has a value of five tome uses. It's a version of Thunder that's been more charged-up than Elthunder. Robin throws a ball of lightning forward, which will temporarily stun enemies upon hitting them, similar to Zero Suit Samus' Paralyzer. Because Arcthunder hits multiple times, it can keep opponents in place, giving Robin the opportunity to either grab or begin a combo.

Thoron

Thoron (トロン) has a value of eight tome uses, and is the strongest variation of Thunder. Robin unleashes a giant blast of lightning, which will damage enemies and go across the stage. Thoron can be extended by holding down the button when unleashing it, increasing its range and distance. Thoron is Robin's most damaging Thunder Special and highest reaching, though due to possessing the greatest tome durability cost it should be used sparingly.

Robin's Special Moves
	3DS/Wii U	Ultimate
Standard Special	Thunder Magic
Side Special	Arcfire
Up Special	Elwind
Down Special	Nosferatu
Final Smash	Pair Up

Custom Variations

Thunder+

Thunder+ (強化サンダー) is one of Robin's Neutral Special Moves that can be used via customization. It is stronger than regular Thunder attacks, but cannot be used as many times.

Strengths:

Larger projectiles

Greater range

Deals more damage and launch

Weaknesses:

Takes longer to charge to later charge stages

Slower projectiles

Lower durability

Thunder+ is a stronger but slower variation of Thunder Magic. The move launches larger projectiles that can be more difficult for opponents to avoid though the projectiles are slower as well. The projectiles deal more damage and launch but it takes longer to charge it up to later charge levels like Arcthunder and Thoron. Thunder+ also has extra range on the projectiles; Thunder is now better suited for zoning rather than just spacing and harassment. Elthunder is still a great zoning tool with good kill power, though its decreased speed does make it easier to avoid. Arcthunder now has slightly greater range but seems as though it is not as useful for combos as the default variation. Thoron is slow but a very large projectile that can be difficult to dodge, though it can also be easily reflected. The move has lower durability, meaning Robin will lose the use of the move faster. One Thoron uses up the entire durability of Thunder+.

Speed Thunder

Speed Thunder (速読サンダー) is one of Robin's Neutral Special Moves that can be used via customization. It charges and travels faster than Thunder, but isn't as powerful.

Strengths:

Faster projectiles

Greater range

Charges up faster

Weaknesses:

Less damage and launch

Doesn't work as well for combos

Thoron is a smaller projectile now

Speed Thunder is a faster but weaker version of Thunder Magic. It charges up faster and the projectiles move more quickly as well, even having an increased range. They deal less damage and launch, however, and Thoron is a smaller projectile now. Arcthunder is ill-suited for combos as it launches opponents before Robin can follow up with a grab or attack.

Robin's Custom Special Moves
	Custom 1	Custom 2
Standard Special	Thunder Magic+	Speed Thunder
Side Special	Arcfire+	Fire Wall
Up Special	Soaring Elwind	Gliding Elwind
Down Special	Distant Nosferatu	Goetia

Origin

Thunder is a tome that has existed since Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light. It is the most basic form of thunder magic,

Trivia

In the Fire Emblem games, Elthunder was actually a lightning bolt attack instead of a ball of lightning, similar to Pikachu and Pichu's Thunder attacks.

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+{{Infobox Special Move
+|name=Thunder
+|image=[[File:Thunder-Elthunder-Arcthunder-Thoron.jpg|250px]]
+|caption=From left to right: Thunder, Elthunder, Arcthunder, and Thoron
+|user=[[Robin]]
+|games=''[[Super Smash Bros. 3DS/Wii U]]''
+}}
 ''For the move used by Pikachu and Pichu, see [[Thunder (Pokémon)]]''
-[[File:Robin-thunder.png|thumb|250px|Robin's Neutral Special, Thunder.]]
-Thunder is one of three Anima elemental tomes Robin has, and it's [[Robin (SSBWU/3DS)|Robin]]'s [[Neutral Special Move]]. It is used for four different spells ('''Thunder''', '''Elthunder''', '''Arcthunder''' and '''Thoron'''), depending on how much time the player charges it. However, Robin cans only use these tomes a certain number of times, with the more powerful attacks having fewer uses.
+'''Thunder''' is is [[Robin]]'s [[Neutral Special Move]]. It is used for four different spells ('''Thunder''', '''Elthunder''', '''Arcthunder''' and '''Thoron'''), where Robin releases a different variation of a thunder spell depending on the charge
-== Thunder ==
+==Overview==
+Thunder has a value of 20 durability and reappears after roughly 9 seconds. However, its durability can be "surpassed". If the player has used up to 19 of its durability value, he or she still can charge it for a Thoron spell, making the Thunder tome worth effectively 27 uses in this way. Each variant of Thunder has a different consumption of durability. After its usage, Robin discards the tome, which can be caught and used as a throwable item.
-'''Thunder''' has a value of 1 tome use. Robin throws a small ball of electricity, which does minor damage and travels a short distance.
-'''Thunder damage: 3%'''
+===Thunder===
+[[File:Robin-thunder.png|thumb|Thunder]]
-==Elthunder==
+'''Thunder''' (サンダー) has a value of 1 tome use. Robin throws a small ball of electricity, which does minor damage and travels a short distance. Thunder deals slight knockback and damage., making it only useful as a quick tool to relive pressure from close opponents.{{-}}
-[[File:Robin-elthunder.png|thumb|Thunder charged up becomes Elthunder]]
+===Elthunder===
-'''Elthunder''' has a value of 3 tome uses. It's a charged-up version of Thunder, where Robin shoots a bigger bolt of electricity for more damage and knockback.
+[[File:Robin-elthunder.png|thumb|Elthunder]]
+'''Elthunder''' (エルサンダー) has a value of three tome uses. It is similar to Thunder where Robin shoots a bigger bolt of electricity for more damage and knockback. Elthunder is useful as a poking tool due to its increased damage and knockback.
+{{-}}
-'''Elthunder damage: 9%'''
-==Arcthunder==
+===Arcthunder===
-[[File:Robin-arcthunder.png|thumb|Elthunder charged up becomes Arcthunder]]
+[[File:Robin-arcthunder.png|thumb|Arcthunder
+]]
-'''Arcthunder''' has a value of 5 tome uses. It's a version of Thunder that's been more charged-up than Elthunder. Robin throws a ball of lightning forward, which will temporarily stun enemies upon hitting them, similar to [[Zero Suit Samus]]' [[Paralyzer]].
+'''Arcthunder''' (ギガサンダー) has a value of five tome uses. It's a version of Thunder that's been more charged-up than Elthunder. Robin throws a ball of lightning forward, which will temporarily stun enemies upon hitting them, similar to [[Zero Suit Samus]]' [[Paralyzer]]. Because Arcthunder hits multiple times, it can keep opponents in place, giving Robin the opportunity to either grab or begin a combo.{{-}}
+===Thoron===
-'''Arcthunder damage: 10% (hits around 8 times).'''
-==Thoron==
 [[File:Robin-thoron.png|thumb|Thunder charged up to its fullest becomes Thoron.]]
-'''Thoron''' has a value of 8 tome uses. It comes out when Thunder is charged to its maximum point. Robin unleashes a giant blast of lightning, which will damage enemies and go across the stage. When it reaches a certain distance, it will end and anyone caught in it will be knocked back. Thoron can be extended by holding down the button when unleashing it. This will increase its length, causing it to hit more times and thus, deal more damage.
+'''Thoron''' (トロン) has a value of eight tome uses, and is the strongest variation of Thunder. Robin unleashes a giant blast of lightning, which will damage enemies and go across the stage. Thoron can be extended by holding down the button when unleashing it, increasing its range and distance. Thoron is Robin's most damaging Thunder Special and highest reaching, though due to possessing the greatest tome durability cost it should be used sparingly.
-'''Standard Thoron damage: 10% (5 hits.). Extended Thoron damage: around 19% (7 hits).'''
 {{Robin Special Moves}}
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 ==Custom Variations==
 ===Thunder+===
-'''Thunder+''' is one of  [[Robin (SSBWU/3DS)|Robin]]'s [[Neutral Special Move]]s that can be used via [[Custom Moves|customization]]. It is stronger than regular Thunder attacks, but cannot be used as many times.
+'''Thunder+''' (強化サンダー) is one of  [[Robin (SSBWU/3DS)|Robin]]'s [[Neutral Special Move]]s that can be used via [[Custom Moves|customization]]. It is stronger than regular Thunder attacks, but cannot be used as many times.
+''Strengths:''
+*Larger projectiles
+*Greater range
+*Deals more damage and launch
+''Weaknesses:''
+*Takes longer to charge to later charge stages
+*Slower projectiles
+*Lower durability
+Thunder+ is a stronger but slower variation of Thunder Magic. The move launches larger projectiles that can be more difficult for opponents to avoid though the projectiles are slower as well. The projectiles deal more damage and launch but it takes longer to charge it up to later charge levels like Arcthunder and Thoron. Thunder+ also has extra range on the projectiles; Thunder is now better suited for zoning rather than just spacing and harassment. Elthunder is still a great zoning tool with good kill power, though its decreased speed does make it easier to avoid. Arcthunder now has slightly greater range but seems as though it is not as useful for combos as the default variation. Thoron is slow but a very large projectile that can be difficult to dodge, though it can also be easily reflected. The move has lower durability, meaning Robin will lose the use of the move faster. One Thoron uses up the entire durability of Thunder+.
 ===Speed Thunder===
-'''Speed Thunder''' is one of  [[Robin (SSBWU/3DS)|Robin]]'s [[Neutral Special Move]]s that can be used via [[Custom Moves|customization]]. It charges and travels faster than Thunder, but isn't as powerful.
+'''Speed Thunder''' (速読サンダー) is one of  [[Robin (SSBWU/3DS)|Robin]]'s [[Neutral Special Move]]s that can be used via [[Custom Moves|customization]]. It charges and travels faster than Thunder, but isn't as powerful.
+''Strengths:''
+*Faster projectiles
+*Greater range
+*Charges up faster
+''Weaknesses:''
+*Less damage and launch
+*Doesn't work as well for combos
+*Thoron is a smaller projectile now
+Speed Thunder is a faster but weaker version of Thunder Magic. It charges up faster and the projectiles move more quickly as well, even having an increased range. They deal less damage and launch, however, and Thoron is a smaller projectile now. Arcthunder is ill-suited for combos as it launches opponents before Robin can follow up with a grab or attack.
+<gallery>
+Thunder_.png|Thunder+
+Thunder_Elthunder.png|Elthunder+
+Thunder_Arcthunder.png|Arcthunder+
+Thunder_Arcthunder_2.png|The explosion from Arcthunder+
+Thunder_Thoron.png|Thoron+
+Speed_Thunder.gif|Speed Thunder
+</gallery>
 {{Robin Custom Special Moves}}
+== Origin ==
+Thunder is a tome that has existed since ''Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light''. It is the most basic form of thunder magic,
 ==Trivia==
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 [[Category:Super Smash Bros. 3DS/Wii U]]
 [[Category:Fire Emblem universe]]
+[[Category:Projectile Attacks]]
+[[Category:Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]