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  • Currently I have a new black more transparent version of Smashpedia on along with a new background I made. Give me your opinions as to if we should use this black design or use the old white design.

    The new background will remain if we decide to use the white version however it won't have the blue/red things on the side and will instead be like the previous background.

    So navigate the site, mess around with it, and then come back and decide what one you would like. Whatever one has the most positive votes will remain.

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    • Like it

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    • The background is epic, keep that for sure. I'm still thinking about whether or not I like the new color. However, there is one problem I encountered. You can't read the text on blog comments from admins, bureaucrats, or rollbacks. Personally, I never cared for our comments being highlighted, but we should go back to regular colors or have the text color changed.

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    • Yep we would have to make all of our admin color's darker so they could be read on the white text.

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    • Oh, and the special moves templates look much too weird now, though I could probably ask Niner to fix that if we keep the color

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    • Hey, this new background looks nice, and with Mewtwo on it. Keep this background on.

      Btw, remember me, Ultraman? You've blocked me for a year, and now I am back, and I have learned from my mistakes since last year, and also I learned respect.

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    • would be great if it didn't hurt your eyes trying to read

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    • Prefer the background definitely, but I kinda like the white better.

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    • I really appreciate this new design.

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    • its cool

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    • 55golem wrote: would be great if it didn't hurt your eyes trying to read

      Nothing more to add to that.

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      • Spends three hours making new blog, sees new design*

      I LOVE IT!

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    • Awesome!!

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    • I love this!

      Now my eyes won't hurt from seeing bright white. This was definitely right choice.

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    • Scorpion Tank 123 wrote: I love this!

      Now my eyes won't hurt from seeing bright white. This was definitely right choice.

      great news everyone apparantely it's opposite day

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    • The background is amazing. Dunno about the darker color tho, it works but I guess I just have to get used to it.

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    • This is awesome!

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    • So far we have eight people who support the new black design, two people who are undecided, and two people who dislike it.

      The new background is staying btw everyone, it's the color of the site that we are deciding on. If enough people dislike this black background, we go back to white. If enough people support this new black background, it stays.

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    • The white background made it easier to see other things, plus I don't think BLACK is the main color of Super Smash Bros. more than WHITE. I mean in Melee, maybe, but it doesn't really fit with the background either. I choose white.

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    • Background image looks pretty good, so nice work on that!

      I'm fine with either black or white background, though I do have a slight preference for the lighter scheme.

      Some thoughts on if we keep the black background, though:

      1. The first link next to "User lists" on MediaWiki:Recentchangestext should have its color changed to match the actual color of links on this wiki. On the other hand, if we switch back to the white scheme, I'm pretty sure the current color of the aforementioned link used to be the link color across the whole wiki (not sure when it changed). (screenshot for clarity)
      2. The admin username highlight would probably want to be changed as well.
      3. I expect some parts of MediaWiki:Common.css and MediaWiki:Wikia.css (in addition to some templates like the special moves templates mentioned above) which deal with colors would need to be updated.

      Oh and while I'm at it, I might as well give an explanation for this:

      DerpyDoodle wrote:
      ...Personally, I never cared for our comments being highlighted...

      The original intent behind these comment highlights (and the forum/message wall tags, and the username highlights, etc.) is for users to have additional identifying CSS in all areas of the site where they have additional rights in order to make it easier for users (especially newer users) to know to whom they should go for help. It's pretty intuitive to think, for instance, that a user with a gold username knows what they are talking about.

      With all that said, I can understand wanting to remove these highlights if you think it promotes a "ranks, not rights" mentality where people want to get promoted more for the bragging rights of the title and "badge" than for a desire to help out on the wiki.

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    • After thinking about it, I'd say I prefer the white screen. The black screen doesn't seem reminiscient of Smash Bros. at all, except Melee (which I don't like). A thing I've noticed about SSB4 is that it has the most bright colors of any game in the series, and this wiki should reflect that.

      Also, a lot of the colors of templates around the wiki have an unpleasant contrast with the black background, and altering the colors would be a lot of work. So yeah, white background for the win.

      Of the comment highlighting and things like that, I never really did like it because I sometimes feel it forces my comments to be "professional." I like joking around in the comments as much as the next guy, but with highlighted comments it kinda feels like people should be attracted to my comment, so it should appear professional. Maybe get rid of the highlighting while still keeping the nametags to help new users

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    • white

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    • I'm going to have to point out that, when I have the wish to read through a wiki and it's not traditionally white, I immediately associate it with unprofessionalism. I always think it's some kind of... dubious wiki like Fantendo, with made up facts. A wiki isn't supposed to be... rich in colors or have a very original and different design. Serious wikis should have a monotonous, steady and dry design, because that's what a wiki is. A place for steady, legitimate and dry facts. Not to mention that reading texts with a background color other than white is so horribly uncomfortable for the eyes.

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    • Sorry, but I don't really dig it because it deviates too much from the current design of Smash Bros. Ever since Brawl Smash Bros. has this more "smooth" feel, with backgrounds and menu being white and everything looking "clean". If we were still back in the Melee age, sure, but I don't think this darker feel matches the visual communication that Smash Bros. currently have.

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    • I think it's super cool.

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    • I like it.

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    • KAWAII SUGOI

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    • DragonTrainer53 wrote: I like it.

      I like you

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    • ArbyMyBoi wrote:

      DragonTrainer53 wrote: I like it.

      I like you

      When this place gets creepy, the tree's stand still (singing)
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    • It's cool, but I'm on mobile so I can't really see anything. Oh and also, it kinda strains my eyes.

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    • It's really cool.

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    • I don't really like it.

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    • Either way, can we just fix the staff colours? Just saw this text block and realised how bad the white text is on the light comment backgrounds.
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    • So far we have thirteen people who support the new black design, two people who are undecided, and eight people who dislike it.

      I'll let the voting continue till Monday.

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    • So, what's the decision? If we're going to keep this background I'd like to know soon so we can change the colors of comment highlights and tables.

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    • Maybe we should have actually one of those poll things. I'm against it.

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    • To be honest, I like it as is. (This is my opinion)

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    • We can't do a poll since that could easily be abused, and since we have a message wall-style forum we can't do a "put your signature here" poll. Expressing your opinion here will be the only way to determine how the community feels.

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    • Ok, thank you for clarification :)

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    • The background image looks okay, but the problem is this black background. First of all it looks nothing like the style of Sm4sh, which is something we should always follow, the style of the latest entry in the series. And secondly, it burns the eyes.

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    • I also support white bg

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    • Guys, look at a stub article and its notes. They're all write, and hard to read in comparison to the new black background. I fully support the white background.

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    • The total final results are...

      Two people who are undecided,

      eleven people who dislike the black design and want the white one back

      and fourteen people support the new black design.

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    • According to the history of this thread, only 24 people have posted here, so those numbers have to be off.

      By my count, the following have explicitly said they like the black background:

      1. Scorpion Tank 123
      2. GameDude1990

      ...these people have either posted with a short statement which only said "awesome" or the like, or said they like the "new design" or the "background" without commenting on the color specifically:

      1. Gbsim52
      2. TheTruePokemonMaster
      3. PacmanIsGr8DontH8M8
      4. TallTitan70
      5. Herokid 2.0
      6. DragonTrainer53
      7. Murabito
      8. Charmande red321

      ...these users have said said they dislike the black background and/or have a preference for the white one:

      1. 55golem
      2. Four4
      3. Matako
      4. Zombie812
      5. Oscuritaforze
      6. DerpyDoodle
      7. Bingbangpoe
      8. Twinklet1ts
      9. DarKingdomHearts
      10. TheUltraman
      11. GreninjaBoss11
      12. StarlieCooperSSB44
      13. David eric

      The only person not accounted for in some way in the above count is ArbyMyBoi, 'cause I can't really place his comments.

      Correct me if I got any of the above wrong.

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    • I love the black color a lot but white suits the wiki better and presents the information clearer, so that's what I support.

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    • So this black background stays forever? Good! I'm glad that it remains here, especially with Mewtwo on this background, and I can see those words just fine. :D

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    • So what's the verdict? I really want the white background to come back but if the black one stays then I'll just respect the opinion of the majority.

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    • Sorry, but I don't like the color. The white background just looks better, and the black font is better.

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    • The verdict is spilt, 12 support it and 11 are against it.

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    • Then this black background stays forever. Case closed.

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    • ...He didn't say that...

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    • Uh, yeah he did, Ultraman already announced the final results. 12 people supported this black background, 11 people are against it, and since 12 is greater than 11, this means that this background is officially staying, permanently.

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    • He said the verdict is SPLIT, he didn't give a specific answer

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    • But he said "final results" once before, meaning that it's official, this black background stays indefinitely, unless it might change when Lucas is released. Right, Ultraman?

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    • Even if 52% are for the black background, I think the fact that the black background makes reading contents here so horribly uncomfortable for many of us, including me, should have a much bigger impact on the final decision than some people just finding the black backround prettier than the white one.

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    • I am very sure everyone hates this black back ground also derpydoodle is an administarator what he says counts

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    • It's too late to count the votes. Ultraman made it official, this black background stays, and that's final. And those who claimed that they cannot see it perfectly, get over it.

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    • I really think DerpyDoodle's words stand above yours.

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    • But Ultraman is the Bureaucrat, the big boss of this Wiki, and he says "12 people support it and 11 are against it", which means that this background stays, and when he says goes. The voting is over, and there's nothing you can do to change his mind.

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    • I think it would be wiser to open a new thread in which peeps can only vote 'yes' or 'no' against the black skin. That way votes are easy to count and there is no arguing on the thread.

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    • This thread was a only vote yes or no thread.

      Anyway the white background will be our main background despite the tie while the black background will be used occasionally.

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    • What "tie"? You said "12 people support it and 11 are against it". And you changed it back to white background anyway, didn't you? My eyes are blind by that background, now. Thanks a lot.

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    • 55golem wrote:
      ...also derpydoodle is an administarator what he says counts

      Matako wrote:
      I really think DerpyDoodle's words stand above yours.

      GameDude1990 wrote:
      But Ultraman is the Bureaucrat, the big boss of this Wiki...when [sic] he says goes.

      Just to point out: this is a sentiment which is specifically discouraged by the wiki's admin policy. Admins have the technical capability of making the necessary changes after a discussion like this, but they shouldn't use this capability to make changes outside of the community's consensus. Considering how the way the numbers stand right now more or less reflects (to borrow a Wikipedia term) no consensus, I expect that it is a bit too soon to draw any conclusions from this thread at this time.

      Edit: Huh. Ninja'd, and white background out of nowhere.

      DarKingdomHearts wrote:
      I think it would be wiser to open a new thread in which peeps can only vote 'yes' or 'no' against the black skin. That way votes are easy to count and there is no arguing on the thread.

      This (or something like it) is an idea I can get behind. It would give a much clearer idea of who wants which background, with far fewer vague responses like those at the start of this thread.

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    • GameDude1990 wrote: What "tie"? You said "12 people support it and 11 are against it". And you changed it back to white background anyway, didn't you? My eyes are blind by that background, now. Thanks a lot.

      It was close enough, we can assume a few people didn't post here and are on either side. The white design was here before, so I doubt it blinded you that much or else you wouldn't have edited here.

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    • DarKingdomHearts wrote:
      I think it would be wiser to open a new thread in which peeps can only vote 'yes' or 'no' against the black skin. That way votes are easy to count and there is no arguing on the thread.

      This (or something like it) is an idea I can get behind. It would give a much clearer idea of who wants which background, with far fewer vague responses like those at the start of this thread. </div> Like I said above, this thread is a thread where you vote yes or no for what color you want. I was also announcing the new background (that I later stated was not supposed to be the point of this thread).

      Considering it was 12 to 11, a few people on either side who might not have posted, and the more vocal arguments given by the people who want the white background. It made sense to switch it back.

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    • People who say the white hurts their eyes, be thankful you have a computer that bright...

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    • It's actually proven that over time, reading white text on a black background can strongly strain the eyes. I am glad that the staff was professional enough to return the background color to white.

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    • Thanks man, for changing it back.

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    • At first I wanted the black to stay, but now that I see the white I really like it more than the black.

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    • It seems much better to read in white than in black now, I forgot to edit my comment about it when I saw the blog comments from admins and rollbackers in black background. EDIT:

      GameDude1990 wrote: What "tie"? You said "12 people support it and 11 are against it". And you changed it back to white background anyway, didn't you? My eyes are blind by that background, now. Thanks a lot.

      Seriously? That's really ridiculous if you ask me, you already edited here with the white background, and now you're saying you're blind because it's back? You sir, must be trolling, just like you did while using a sockpuppet account.

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    • Guys! What happens happens. Just get over it if you like the black, and be happy if you like the white.

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    • is it wierd if you wanted white but then you miss the black

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