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  • SketchFalcon
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    23:28, March 31, 2015

    I saw what you did to the Greninja page. This is getting ridiculous. Letting your bias and lack of knowledge of Smash prevent you from making meaningful, helpful edits is not good.

    It was fine when it was just an opinion. But when you begin to see it as the truth, then it becomes an issue. I'm asking you to not make edits like that unless they are solid FACT. Thanks.

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    • I have seen greninja be played he is average and I pointed out some of his weak and good points. ABOUT BIENG BIAS THE LAST PERSON SAID HE WAS THE BEST FIGHTER NOW HOW ISN'T THAT BIAS TELL ME >:(

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    • In my personal opinion, opinions are for forums, and fact is for editing pages.

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    • Hi

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    • I'll admit, saying he's one of the best may also be more of an opinion, but it's still more true than saying he's average or even worse.

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    • It's not any better if any thing it's worse because your saying all the others don't have a chance but saying average means he has an alright chance at winning >:(

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    • It's because he isn't "average" at the moment. He's doing better than other characters like Bowser Jr.

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    • Hi

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    • Please stop spamming.

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    • I'm just saying hi.

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    • Yeah, hi. This post has nothing to do with you, so I would appreciate it if you would say something useful.

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    • Ok

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    • Sorry

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    • BHCreations wrote: It's because he isn't "average" at the moment. He's doing better than other characters like Bowser Jr.

      He actually isn't better than bwser jr the only good thing he can do is shadow sneak and that can be easily dodged with a clown kart escape

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    • No, Shadow Sneak is not good at all. Maybe for recovering, but other than that, no.

      Why don't you just WATCH matches? You have no clue what you're talking about.

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    • Look, 55golem, it's clear that you're not very educated on professional Smash. What you said about Greninja proves this. Please don't edit any more pages to fit your basic understanding of the game. I'm not trying to sound mean or anything, but when you state these things like they're fact, it gets pretty irritating.

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    • Thank you, Four4. 55golem, you just need to understand that you do not get competitive Super Smash Bros. You made that pretty clear when you called it boring when I said Final Smashes and items aren't used.

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    • I wasn't trying to edit it bad I was editing it becuase I saw a bias comment in there I just gave my own reasons so people wouldn'y bother changing it back.. It's also obvious that just becuase one as doesn't/can't make it to tournaments doesn't mean you should dis there ADVISE AND WAIT YOUR TRYING TO TELL ME HE IS GOOD BECUASE HE WEN"T AGAINST WHO MARIO

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    • The only information about who a character is "good" against should be in the official character matchups table, which we haven't gotten yet. Otherwise, there is no need to include their performance against other characters, as that heavily depends on who is playing those characters.

      This really shouldn't be this big of a deal, there are plenty of facts that need adding to character pages.

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    • I agree with you derpy doodle which is why I changed him so there wasn't any biasy

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    • Yeah, well the first time you changed it, you only added more bias. It's fine the way it is.

      P.S. - If you think Mario is bad, you are only further proving how clueless you are.

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    • So I am guessing that tournaments are about smashing becuase all the characters that I said suck have awful speacial moves

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    • No, not at all. It's not specifically about any moves. It's the combination of Tilts, Specials, Smash Attacks, Aerials, and etc. that can make a character great.

      Mario has good Specials (Fireball, Cape). Greninja does as well (Hydro Pump, Water Shuriken).

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    • ok mario's fireball doesn't do any knockback and little damage and his cape is only good against a projectile, geninja's hydropump is hard to use and if used wrong can stop you from getting on stage, his water shuriken is good and all but bowser jr's cannon ball flys further the only good move greninja has is his ariel down which can be easily spammed

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    • 1. Damage and knockback are besides the point. It has enough hitstun to allow a quick follow-up if it lands. It's fast and reliable.

      2. Anybody can use Hydro Pump easily. Stop acting like it's the worst thing ever. It's very quick and unpredictable.

      3. His cannon balls are awful. Never use them unless your opponent is far enough off stage and you know you'll hit them.

      4. Greninja's Down Aerial is not one of his better moves. You cannot spam it at all. Your opponent will ALWAYS punish it if you keep trying to hit them with it.

      5. I've lost count of how many times I've said this, but you are CLUELESS. That's the nicest way I can put it.

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    • 1. sure it might stun but you can recover in time to attack 2. When I used it I failed pretty quickly 3. his cannonballs aren't weak if there up close which if there going in for a strike they will 4. sure you can knock him tot he side but if you time it wrong you will get trapped underneath and be caught in the spam 5. @#$%A% you just because I don't go into a tournament doesn't mean know crap I have tested all these characters when I say there awful it's from experience

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    • 1. Yeah. It depends on the situation. Either way, when he's shooting Fireballs, more often than not you're at a disadvantage.

      2. Did you read what I just said? I can do Hydro Pump without any sort of problem. It's only slightly more difficult than Pikachu's.

      3. I didn't say they were weak. It takes way too long to charge, and the end lag is atrocious.

      4. No you won't. Just shield it.

      5. I don't go to tournaments. I watch and play competitive Smash, and I'm willing to bet I have played every Smash Bros. game more than you have. From experience, I can tell you which characters have potential.

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    • It doesn't matter if you played melee or the original Brawl onwards has a different playing style and I have played brawl onwards. 2. sure if he isn't close enough to you plus shielding can break and leave you confused. 3. I know that really he is probably best for quickly and easily smashing I don't care if you watch tournament video's or not that doesn't mean that I don't from experience

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    • 1. I have played every game in the series. That, in turn, means I have also played Brawl, 3DS, and Wii U. Brawl is my most-played game of all time, and Sm4sh is quickly racking up the hours.

      2. Then why not Spot Dodge? Or roll?

      Y'know, can we just be done with arguing and come to some sort of agreement? We both play Smash Bros. differently, and all that matters is that we still love the same game, right?

      I came to this wiki hoping to make friends and help out the community with my (not trying to brag) extensive knowledge of Super Smash Bros., not to get into arguments/debates such as this one. Listen, you go right ahead and use Bowser Jr. the way you want to. You will definitely adapt and shift strategies as you face different players. We all do. That's good. It's how you improve.

      So, uh, are we cool?

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    • We'll You are the one that started this argument but seriosuly don't try and change what I changed on diddy kongs page

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    • It's not trivia. Palutena's Guidance has some cool stuff, but the rocketbarrel thing is just a normal part of his moveset. We don't need Palutena's Guidance to clarify that.

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    • No but it's the fact that you can knock off his barrelpack that's unique I was just refrencing from where I got it

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    • Alright, this has gone long enough. I'm gonna close this thread, but first I want 55golem and BHCreations to settle their differences.

      Golem, you need to take care to ensure that what you are writing is fact and not biased in any way, shape, or form. Also, there is no need to explain where you got your information from IN THE ARTICLE, as that completely ruins the article. Also, instead of getting angry when other people undo your edits and undoing the undo, look hard at why your edit was undone in the first place. People rarely undo edits on this wiki without good reason. If you still genuinely believe after thinking about your edit that it shouldn't have been undone, feel free to consult other users, or even better, the person who undid your edits. That can really be helpful sometimes.

      And BHC, you also should remember to take good looks at edits before you undo them, because who knows, they could have an inkling of truth in them. Sometimes bad edits would be better off with a rewrite or simply grammar corrections rather than be undone. If you do undo them, an explanatory edit summary would be very helpful. Also, although I know you mean well, you need to be careful to watch your words to avoid sounding prideful.

      That is all. I hope you guys can put aside your differences for the good of the wiki.

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    • My apologies. Every bit of that trivia was truth, but it didn't belong as trivia. Think about it. Shouldn't that just be mentioned as a normal part of his moveset?

      Also, I did add detailed edit summaries of why I thought it should be undone. You can even look in the Recent Wiki Activity.

      P.S. - I go by BH, by the way, not BHC.

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    • Um yeah no I changed greninja's page becuase it was bias and diddy kong's trivia didn't need to be edited becuase that was the only place the info could go

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    • 1. Ugh. I told you already, it was more biased the way you put it. Just leave it be.

      2. Yes, but the info doesn't NEED to be there. It's unnecessary.

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    • Golem, people have the right to undo your edits within good reason. Please accept this and let's be done.

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    • I'm not sure if this wiki is right for me. I think I'm just going to leave.

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    • I can't stop you, but I do hope you stay. It's actually pretty fun here most of the time. But if that's your decision, then I wish you the best.

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    • I don't know. I feel almost like I haven't made any friends or had much fun at all. My original goal was to just help everybody out and fix things, but I find myself getting discouraged by the very thing I've hated most about Super Smash Bros.: the community.

      I'm not saying any of you are bad people. I just don't think I like the way things work around here. Besides, I have my own wikis to attend to.

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    • BCH the problem is that you keep disagreeing with me even though I have played super smash bros and have played those characters and now from experience who is bad

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    • Forget it. I don't care anymore. You are one of the most ignorant people I have ever met. It's almost like you purposely disregard everything I say. I'm just going to leave now, so kindly DO NOT REPLY.

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    • I'm closing this thread now, as it appears that no solution is going to be reached. Golem, if you continue to ignore things like this and continue to make biased edits, you will be banned for an amount of time. And BH, even though it's much too late now, I'm sorry you had to put up with this. I hope you can come back in the future where things will hopefully be better.

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