Talk: Sex Kick

Who created the term, "sex kick?" I'm just curious. Anyways, that's the kind of info that would also be useful on this page. AnujSuper9 06:45, March 1, 2007 (GMT)

Matt Deezie, I think. – AltAcnt ( Talk • Conts • Email ) 15:16, March 1, 2007 (GMT)

Somebody fact-check me on the SSB sex kicks. – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 15:27, March 1, 2007 (GMT)

Um, why exactly is it called a "Sex Kick"? Can you please explain THAT. - Pokemon DP

Well...it remains extended after the initial thrust... --RJM ^Talk 11:56, January 6, 2008 (EST)

I believe a sex kick picture would help. Zmario 10:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I have a snapshot of Samus's, but I can't upload it (Unless someone helps me. [If I put the SD Card in there are all ".bin" files])12.74.209.165 23:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I think Ill add what moves for each char are sex kicks...if someone thinks they should be organized better by all means change it User:KoRoBeNiKi

I still find the name confusing. "Sex kick"? Remains extended after the initial thrust? That sounds like some nerd desperately trying to fit a sexual link to anything in the world. Isn't there a better explanation? Has anyone asked? JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 08:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

In this case, it's not a matter of whether or not it's a particularly "good" name, but it's one that has become widely used throughout the community and popular usage will often dictate the "official" name for something that doesn't have an official name otherwise. --RJM ^Talk 14:12, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm aware that it's the name used. I was talking about why the person who gave it that name, gave it that name. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 11:14, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

We don't know, we aren't the person who coined the term. - Hatake91 (talk) 00:19, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

No one's ever asked him, huh? Zixor (talk) 03:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Couldn't it have been called something like "duration kick"? Blue Ninjakoopa 03:26, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

It could have been except that it's not, so deal with it. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 04:15, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Dude, srsly. Take a chill pill >:U Blue Ninjakoopa 04:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Do we have to call it that? I mean I have never heard this term used and dont undersand how it is a "popular name". Anyway, I dont mind this page that much but Do we have to link all the pages to this “kick”? I mean some people may find i innaporpriate or offensive, myself included.--Qim1 (talk) 00:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it's short for "sexy kick", not anything offensive. 98.117.158.220 21:00, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

• It's referencing "sex", which definitely makes it inappropriate for half the population. Has anyone ever considered that there might be minors on this page, not knowing what it means and stumbling onto this page? How old do you expect the viewers to be? This is a wiki about a game people! --Qim1 (talk) 21:03, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Where in he world do you get half the population from? And how is sex offensive? We are not a bunch of puritans here. Just statistically speaking, more than half the people who visit this site have probably had sex based on their age (granted, it's a site about video games, so who knows...:-P), and most of the rest have at least thought about it to the point that it's not offensive to think about people having sex. If you don't like it, go to church, not SmashWiki. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 00:31, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's got SEX in the name, so, yeah, it's referencing it (though, how???). -Zixor (talk) 22:40, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Deletion

Now that I think about it, this page should be deleted. Here's my reasons:

1. It's not helpful. It's not a tecnique or anything
2. We might as well have articles of "headbutt" or "punch".
3. There's no official name. I mean, sure, the current name is popular, but it's not official. Unlike L cancelling, which is as simple as you can go, "sex kick" is a made up name that has nothing to do with the thing.

There, I think it should be deleted immediatly. 98.117.158.220 20:42, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

1. It is a common term, and people may be confused when they see it in places(such as SWF guides), so we have it if people need to look it up.
2. Explain that logic please.
3. There's no official name for Wavedashing either, should we delete that? There are a lot of unofficial terms here, should all those be deleted?Smoreking^(T) _(c) 00:31, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

It's just a term for a type of attack. We don't need an article for a kind of kick. Also, wavedashing actually has to do with what the action is. "sex kick" does not. And I've never heard the term of SmashBoards. Besides, Fan games arn't allowed an article, regardless of how popular they are. 98.117.158.220 01:13, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Are you serious? Really, are you serious? You've "never heard the term of [sic] SmasherBoards." SmashBoards is a website. Basically, it's the biggest forum on Smash Bros, where they have the SBR and other things. If you don't know what that is, you need to learn before you edit again. This is the term for the attack. People involved in the smash community know this. We didn't make it up. It is not our job to dumb down the website to you, it's your job to know/learn enough to understand and edit it. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 00:25, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, that was a typo. I meant I never heard it on smashboards. 98.111.95.78 01:55, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Go ask. Or, if you don't want to be flamed for being a n00b, take my word for it. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 05:48, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

You realize that I am 98.177.158.220? My IP changed a month ago. See my talk page. 98.111.95.78 16:54, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 17:25, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it should be deleted because I only thought that Captain Falcon could do it.----Supersonicman

Great post. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 00:25, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

• I agree with the deletion of this page.--Qim1 (talk) 20:56, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Any chance you'd like to explain? Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 00:25, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

-Absolutely no way this page will be deleted. -Zixor (talk) 22:40, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

↑ BNK ^[E|T|C] 00:09, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

I agree on the deletion of this article. The reasons listed on the top are correct IMO, it's not a technique it's just a category of attacks. Headbutt and punch is also a category of attacks. Sex kick is hardly even used as a term anymore, the usually just use the attack name (Nair,Bair,etc.). If it does get used then it should be posted in the section of the guide where they tell what means what.--Moneypony (talk) 23:23, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

This page will not be deleted. Period. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 02:25, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

You're the Boss, C-Hawk. Let's archive this discussion now. 98.111.95.78 02:47, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. That said, I will detail the reasons for this. First, unlike headbut etc. the term Sex Kick is not self-referential. You don't "get" what a Sex Kick is like you do a headbut or drop-kick. Second, the properties of the attack are not immediately obvious by the animation. It is not intuitive that the hit box remains on an extended foot, so documenting that is by definition a priority of this wiki. Third, a wide enough range of moves that have these properties exist to merit discussion of the group of attacks. Therefore, we need some way to categorize them, and Sex Kick is already a term used for them. Fourth, even if the term has fallen out of vogue in current usage, that does not mean that the term is not and has not been used enough to merit mention on this wiki. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 15:59, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

My recent edits to most of the character article's moveset descriptions and combo terminology usually link here. This article's purpose is pretty important regardless of whatever reasons, so no opposes here. --HavocReaper'48 02:53, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Meaning

Okay, so, no one seems to want to deal with this properly, so I'll make this quite clear: Unless it can be explained, the term sex kick's lack of meaning will be pointed out in the article. -End of story. Zixor (talk) 20:44, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Uh, it's fine the way it is, it's slang. Also, an admin needs to seriously protect Sex Kick and this talk page- didn't we have enough debate already?! --HavocReaper'48 20:50, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

1. Terms do not have to have meaning, implicit or explicit. Take tech as an example, the average non-smasher will think it's just a short form for "technique".
2. I believe the term does have an explicit meaning. But since it's "explicit" in another way as well, it's hardly appropriate to menion it in the article.

Toomai Glittershine eXemplary Logic 21:11, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

I haven't put the explanation in not only because of what Toomai said, but also because it's bloody obvious. And yes, as Toomai, the explanation would have to go into more detail than I would be comfortable with providing on this wiki. PenguinofDeath 22:19, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

1. Tech does have a meaning.
2. Things need to be explained as well as they can be, or else recognized as having no explicit reasoning.

-Zixor (talk) 01:42, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

We know why it's called "Sex Kick". It's just too embarrasing to explain it. 98.111.95.78 02:09, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hooray, I think we have a solution -Zixor (talk) 18:13, April 28, 2010 (UTC) (penis)

No, it's lesbian sex. There, I said it. 98.111.95.78 23:24, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Why the hell is it even called sex kick? Why not just rename the UP A to "Donkey Punch" --Sigma200 (talk) 23:34, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Oh my God, this talk again? Read the entire section and the "Term Origin" I added in the page a couple months ago, please. I hate this "term" as much as everyone, but this shit sticked in the community, it's not so easy to change, sadly. Until the major competitive community in SmashBoards and whatever decides to change, we're sadly sticking to this name. --Bingbangpoe (talk) 00:32, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

Haha, this is fucking hilarious, hope the fucking other unofficial terms are called like "Vagina Waffle" or fucking incest punch or some other shit like that LMAO Aspotle (talk) 22:55, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Except this term has reason and slight logic behind it, whereas "vagina waffle" or "incest punch" mean nothing...

~Signed,

Four4

23:13, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Change the page name

Um, it might be nice to change the name of the page to "Roundhouse Kick," because "sex kick" is a misleading term to many users

im gonna guess the reason for the name is cuz the player opens the legs to expose the crotch area

Origin

I think maybe we should add "Origin" in the page to explain where the term came from and why it is named like that. I don't have a problem with the term "sex kick" since it is widely used, but would be interesting to have that kind of explanation. --Bingbangpoe (talk) 19:51, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

Title

I fixed the title guys

--Sigma200 (talk) 09:22, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

Err, was it a good idea? Look, I never agreed with the name "Sex Kick" too, but it's the "official term" that is widely used in the competitive community. Even though it is a very stupid name, I don't think it's a good idea to change it since it's already well-known and established as official by players. Honestly, I'd rather keeping the name "Sex Kick" and researching for the reason it was named like this, and add a section in this page called "Name Origin". I said that quite a while ago but no one paid attention. --Bingbangpoe (talk) 13:00, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

I did some research on the Smash Boards and found it was created by the smasher and ex-tournament director Matt Deezie. Yes, it is as everyone says, the term is a sexual innuendo referring to the properties of the attack in the original Super Smash Bros (initial thrust and extension). Matt also came with the terms "Shine" (which I also dislike) and "Chain Throw". --Bingbangpoe (talk) 13:11, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

It's not official because an ex-tournament director says so that it should be called a "Sex Kick" just leave it as the Fornication Kick. Truter (talk) 22:15, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

That's why I said "official", with the quote mark. Yes, it's not an official term, but none of the terms in Smash are, anyway. But still, "Sex Kick" is widely know by the competitive community and no one says "Fornication Kick", so we're basically trying to force a change that no one will understand. Would be just like saying "Hey man, I find the word 'sausage' very offensive, let's call it 'meat banana' from now on. --Bingbangpoe (talk) 01:10, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

"Fornication Kick" is not any better than Sex Kick; in fact, it's worse. Why should your opinion on what its name should be take precedence over a tournament director's? Fornication means young people having sex before marriage, so why the heck would it be a better name? DerpyDoodle 02:49, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Exact my point. One or two opinions shouldn't be more important than the tournament director's. Not that I'm praising him for the term; it is AWFUL, but everyone uses it. Also, one of the categories in this page is "unofficial lingo", so I don't know why people are trying to change something that is already established in the community, even though it sucks. This matter of renaming the term should be taken in consideration possibly in a tournament or Smash Boards.--Bingbangpoe (talk) 12:59, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Just change the name to something else then! Don't set it as something sexual. Truter (talk) 05:43, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with you, but that's not up to us to do. Sadly, we gotta roll with "Sex Kick" until they, the dudes in Smash Boards, decide to change the official term to something else. --Bingbangpoe (talk) 12:59, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

......

DerpyDoodle 13:43, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Just because the name sounds immature, there's no reason for deletion. If I'm to be honest, the only people who are immature are the people that believe that it has been used in the wrong term. The page is perfectly fine; thus, deletion isn't appropriate for a page even with an unusual name. It is obviously referring to something that consists within the Super Smash Bros. universe, which is exactly what this Wiki even exists for. Cheers, --

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15:56, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Protect this page

This thing about the name REALLY has to stop in my opinion, should we just protect it to prevent further edits like that? David eric (talk) 15:09, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

I'd recommend semiprotection for editing (to block new users but allow established users), and full protection for page-move (admins only). - Nick O'Demus 15:14, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

Done. DerpyDoodle 18:21, February 17, 2015 (UTC)