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|firstgame = ''[[EarthBound (game)|EarthBound]]'' (1994) |
|firstgame = ''[[EarthBound (game)|EarthBound]]'' (1994) |
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+ | |games = ''[[Ness (SSB)|SSB]]''<br/>''[[Ness (SSBB)|Brawl]]''<br/>''[[Ness (SSBWU/3DS)|SSBWU/3DS]]''<br/>''[[Ness (SSBU)|Ultimate]]'' |
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'''Ness''' ({{ja|ネス|Nesu}}, ''Ness'') is a [[starter]] character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. Announced at [[E3]] 2001, he was originally going to be replaced by [[Lucas]] from ''[[Mother 3]]''; the ultimate cancellation of the game for the Nintendo 64, however, caused [[Masahiro Sakurai]] to retain Ness. |
'''Ness''' ({{ja|ネス|Nesu}}, ''Ness'') is a [[starter]] character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. Announced at [[E3]] 2001, he was originally going to be replaced by [[Lucas]] from ''[[Mother 3]]''; the ultimate cancellation of the game for the Nintendo 64, however, caused [[Masahiro Sakurai]] to retain Ness. |
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− | He is currently ranked 23rd in the F tier. While still having fantastic throws and a great aerial game due to his double jump cancel, Ness has a poor approach on the ground and in the air due to significant range issues in most of his attacks; his recovery is also easy to intercept and edge-guard against, and he also has significant trouble KOing opponents, again owing to his poor range. As a result of these significant weaknesses, Ness has terrible [[ |
+ | He is currently ranked 23rd in the F tier. While still having fantastic throws and a great aerial game due to his double jump cancel, Ness has a poor approach on the ground and in the air due to significant range issues in most of his attacks; his recovery is also easy to intercept and edge-guard against, and he also has significant trouble KOing opponents, again owing to his poor range. As a result of these significant weaknesses, Ness has terrible [[Character matchup (SSBM)|matchups]] with six nearly unwinnable, one even (against {{SSBM|Yoshi}}), and only three slightly favorable (against {{SSBM|Bowser}}, {{SSBM|Kirby}}, and {{SSBM|Pichu}}). |
==Attributes== |
==Attributes== |
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[[Image:Ness SSBM.png|right|150px]] |
[[Image:Ness SSBM.png|right|150px]] |
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+ | Ness is a character known for his good Aerial Attacks, overall bad priority, and a variety of [[projectile]]s. His Forward Throw is good for knockback. His Back Throw is the strongest in the game. His Up and Down throws are good for setting up combos. However, Ness's standing grab range is the second shortest (next to [[Pikachu (SSBM)|Pikachu]]), and his running grab the shortest, which means his throws are usually unused in battle. |
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− | Ness is an unusual blend of character archetypes; many of his attributes are unique in comparison to other characters, such as his projectiles, his [[recovery]] and his midair [[jump]]. Ness has above-average [[traction]] and a moderately low [[falling speed]], giving him an average [[wavedash]] that is relatively quick. |
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+ | His Aerial Attacks are good for comboing, KOing, and edgeguarding. Ness's Down Aerial is a [[Meteor Smash]] with decent range, but it's slow. Three out of four of Ness's [[Special Move]]s are projectiles. However, they are overall slow and have various amounts of cooldown time and start-up lag with them. Additionally, each one has very limited use, making them all situational, with an exception to [[PK Thunder]], which is good for edgeguarding, juggling, and mindgames. |
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− | Arguably Ness's greatest strength is his [[double jump cancel]] (often abbreviated DJC). By cancelling out of his midair jump with an aerial, Ness can quickly and efficiently use his multiple aerial attacks; as Ness's ground-based options are poor, his various aerial attacks can act as superior alternatives to them, with his [[neutral aerial]] and [[forward aerial]] attacks acting as potential combo starters and his back and up aerial attacks acting as potent KO moves. Furthermore, Ness alone has access to the [[Yo-yo glitch]], which can significantly increase his range and options when performed properly. While Ness's up and down smashes's knockback are poor, they can be very versatile when used properly, being the only smashes who can damage opponents while charging; they have powerful juggling, tech-chasing and spacing ability. |
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+ | A majority of Ness's attacks are fast with little lag, but many of his attacks are also short-ranged. Ness has a powerful Side Smash that can reflect projectiles, but his Up and Down smashes are weak and nearly useless, except in tech chasing. Ness can reflect projectiles with his body during his Side Smash, and he can use his [[Down Special Move]], [[PSI Magnet]], to absorb energy projectiles and lower his percentage, but it is quite slow. |
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− | Ness also has some good KO options. On the ground, Ness's [[forward smash]] is very powerful, moderately fast, has a long, safe disjointed hitbox and has the ability to reflect some projectiles. Within the air, Ness's [[Up aerial|up]] and [[Back aerial|back air]] attacks are short-ranged, but very powerful, with the former acting as an excellent replacement for his weak up smash when DJCed and the latter powerfully semi-spiking opponents. Ness's [[back throw]] is one of the most powerful in the game, and it acts as among Ness's best KOing options. Ness's [[forward throw]] has poor knockback scaling; while this makes it weak at high percentages, this low knockback growth can set up edge-guarding affairs and gimps. Ness's [[Up throw|up]] and [[down throw]]s can begin new combos, with the former easily comboing into his DJC'd up air at some damage percentages. |
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+ | Ness has fairly slow dash speed, but his fast, although short wavedash can help this problem. Ness also has an effective (as well as the lowest) [[double jump cancel]]. Ness's main form of recovery is [[PK Thunder 2]]. When mastered, this covers great distance and is very powerful (and having a large sweetspot range and very high second jump also helps his recovery). However, it takes great amounts of precision to angle in certain instances, and Ness is extremely vunerable while his PK Thunder is out; because if it is hit by a high priority projectile or the opponent, Ness will fall into a helpless state. |
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− | Ness, however, suffers from a poor ground-based approach in the game, which, in turn, significantly increases his difficultly in KOing opponents. Ness's tilts have little range or knockback, with only his up tilt acting as a practical combo starter; furthermore, while Ness does have a decently-lengthed wavedash, his existing smash attacks are all too situational for use in wavesmashing. While his forward smash does contain a long and safe disjointed hitbox, Ness's up and down smashes have poor knockback, making them ineffective for KOing. Ness's ground-based approach also suffers by his lack of an effective projectile; while Ness has three projectiles, none can be effectively used in all cases. [[PK Flash]] has long starting and ending lag, and it can only KO reliably after being charged for a long time; as a result, it can only be utilized as a situational edge-guard technique. [[PK Fire]] has multiple hits, but it is easy to DI out of, has high starting and ending lag, and has short reach for a projectile. [[PK Thunder]] is slightly more useful, as it is controllable and can be used for mindgames; however, it suffers from long windup and cooldown lag, and it also cannot be cancelled out of, making it very easy to punish. As a final flaw for Ness's ground-based approach, Ness's grab has the second shortest range in all of the game, thus making it difficult for him to KO opponents via his powerful throws; while his dash grab does slightly increase its range, it also features considerable lag if it whiffs. |
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− | Furthermore, despite the high potential power of his DJC, Ness's aerial approach is also below-average. Like his ground approach, it also suffers from the short range in many of his attacks, and against opponents with particularly good spacing games, like {{SSBM|Marth}}, Ness can easily and quickly be overwhelmed in his attempts to approach opponents. As two of Ness's best finishers are aerial based attacks, KOing in the air requires a good read in order to potentially pull off a DJCed aerial. As Ness has a high short hop and a low falling speed, he also has a very poor [[SHFFL]]. |
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− | Outside of his poor approach, Ness also suffers from a flawed recovery. Ness has the second highest midair jump in the game (second to only Yoshi) and his midair jump has unusual properties in its trajectory; PK Thunder 2 also grants a rather long distance, with a moderately large sweetspot and a long period of invincibility frames. Despite these benefits, however, Ness still has a very predictable and inflexible recovery, in spite of its long length. In the process of having to start PK Thunder 2, characters with good recoveries (such as {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} or {{SSBM|Samus}}) can merely jump into the projectile and take negligible knockback and damage, immediately sending Ness into a state of [[helplessness]]. Projectiles such as {{SSBM|Link}}'s Boomerangs and the {{SSBM|Ice Climbers}}' [[Ice Shot]] can easily disrupt the projectile as well, and in these cases, damage is not even inflicted to the opponent. PK Thunder 2 also has significant angling issues, and it can easily curve under lips of stages, most notably on {{SSBM|Battlefield}}. Additionally, should Ness end up parallel to the ground while using the attack, the ending lag can easily be abused and punished. Finally, its linear nature can make it easy to read and edge-guard for many characters, despite the invincibility frames found within it; attacks like Mario's [[Cape]] or Link's [[Spin Attack]] can easily intercept the attack as Ness charges to the stage. |
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==Changes from ''Smash 64'' to ''Melee''== |
==Changes from ''Smash 64'' to ''Melee''== |
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===Aesthetics=== |
===Aesthetics=== |
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− | *Ness's grounded jump is no longer psychokinetic. |
+ | *{{change|Ness's grounded jump is no longer psychokinetic.}} |
− | *Ness has new voice samples. |
+ | *{{change|Ness has new voice samples.}} |
− | *Ness's backpack is two strapped. |
+ | *{{change|Ness's backpack is two strapped.}} |
===Attributes=== |
===Attributes=== |
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− | *Ness is heavier, now being a middleweight. |
+ | *{{buff|Ness is heavier, now being a middleweight.}} |
− | *Ness's air speed and |
+ | *{{buff|Ness's [[air speed]] and [[dash]]ing speed were greatly improved. [[Walk]]ing speed was improved to a lesser extent.}} |
− | *The speed and reach of Ness's attacks was generally decreased. |
+ | *{{nerf|The speed and reach of Ness's attacks was generally decreased.}} |
===Ground Attacks=== |
===Ground Attacks=== |
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− | *'''Forward tilt''' is much stronger. |
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− | * |
+ | *{{buff|[[Forward tilt]] is much stronger.}} |
+ | *{{buff|[[Down tilt]] is much faster.}} |
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− | * |
+ | *{{buff|[[Dash attack]] does more damage and has more range.}} |
− | + | **{{change|His dash attack have psychokinetic properties.}} |
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− | *'''Forward smash:''' Has longer reach and is faster. |
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− | + | *{{buff|[[Forward smash]] now has longer reach and is faster.}} |
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+ | **{{nerf|Forward smash now has 2 sourspots.}} |
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− | *Both his up and down |
+ | *{{nerf|Both his [[Up smash|up]] and [[down smash]]es have less reach and they have been drastically weakened to the point where they can no longer KO at realistic percentages.}} |
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===Aerial Attacks=== |
===Aerial Attacks=== |
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− | *Just like Yoshi, |
+ | *{{nerf|Just like Yoshi, Ness's [[DJC]]'d combos are slower and harder to perform, although those are still relatively powerful.}} |
− | * |
+ | *{{change|[[Neutral aerial]] animation has been changed to a spin rather than a split kick.}} |
− | *Both his forward and back aerial have psychokinetic properties. |
+ | *{{change|Both his [[Forward aerial|forward]] and [[back aerial]]s have psychokinetic properties.}} |
− | * |
+ | *{{buff|Forward aerial deals more damage and has more range.}} |
− | * |
+ | *{{buff|[[Up aerial]] has more reach with a bigger hitbox.}} |
− | + | **{{nerf|Ness's head no longer has [[intangibility]] frames when performing the attack.}} |
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− | * |
+ | *{{buff|[[Down aerial]] has much higher base knockback, making it a deadly 0-death KO tool if not meteor-canceled.}} |
− | + | **{{nerf|Down aerial is slower and, like most other meteor smashes, has significantly more start-up lag It also has much lower knockback scaling.}} |
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===Grabs and Throws=== |
===Grabs and Throws=== |
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− | *Ness has been given an [[up throw]] and a [[down throw]], providing him with more options. |
+ | *{{buff|Ness has been given an [[up throw]] and a [[down throw]], providing him with more options.}} |
− | *Forward throw |
+ | *{{nerf|Both his [[Forward throw|forward]] and [[back throw]]s deal less damage (16% → 11%).}} |
− | *Back throw does 6% less damage. |
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===Special Moves=== |
===Special Moves=== |
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+ | *{{change|Ness now has a new [[neutral special move]], [[PK Flash]]. PK Fire was moved to Ness's [[side special move]].}} |
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+ | *{{nerf|[[PK Fire]] travels a smaller distance, and it is now considerably easier to DI out of.}} |
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+ | *{{buff|[[PK Thunder]] travels faster, and it has a tighter radius which it can travel.}} |
− | + | **{{nerf|PK Thunder 2 travels a shorter distance, damage when hitting an opponent is 5% less, and has a lot more ending lag.}} |
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− | + | **{{change|The crowd no longer gasps when Ness hits himself with PK Thunder.}} |
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+ | *{{buff|[[PSI Magnet]] is considerably faster, improving Ness's defensive game.}} |
− | + | **{{change|The color of PSI Magnet is now blue instead of green.}} |
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− | + | **{{change|The crowd no longer cheers when Ness absorbs a [[projectile]] with PSI Magnet.}} |
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==Moveset== |
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|neutral2dmg=2% |
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|neutral3dmg=4% |
|neutral3dmg=4% |
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− | |neutraldesc=Ness punches forward twice then kicks the opponent away. |
+ | |neutraldesc=Ness punches forward twice, then kicks the opponent away. |
|ftiltimage=Ness Forward tilt SSBM.png |
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|ftiltsidedmg=11% |
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|ftiltdowndmg=10% |
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− | |ftiltdesc=Ness does a |
+ | |ftiltdesc=Ness does a forward roundhouse kick. This attack can be aimed up or down. |
|utiltimage=Ness Up tilt SSBM.png |
|utiltimage=Ness Up tilt SSBM.png |
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|utiltdmg=7% |
|utiltdmg=7% |
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− | |utiltdesc=Ness thrusts both hands upward. Ness's head is |
+ | |utiltdesc=Ness thrusts both hands upward. Ness's head is invulnerable during the early part of the animation. |
|dtiltimage=Ness Down tilt SSBM.png |
|dtiltimage=Ness Down tilt SSBM.png |
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|dtiltname= |
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|dtiltdmg=3% |
|dtiltdmg=3% |
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− | |dtiltdesc= |
+ | |dtiltdesc=Ness thrusts one leg forward while crouching. This attack can combo into itself at early percentages. |
|dashimage=Ness Dash attack SSBM.png |
|dashimage=Ness Dash attack SSBM.png |
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|dashdmg=5% (hit 1), 4% (hits 2-3) |
|dashdmg=5% (hit 1), 4% (hits 2-3) |
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− | |dashdesc=Ness dashes forward and |
+ | |dashdesc=Ness dashes forward and extends both arms, sending out three sparks of PSI energy forward. This attack launches the opponent in random directions. |
|fsmashimage=Ness Forward smash SSBM.png |
|fsmashimage=Ness Forward smash SSBM.png |
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|fsmashangles=1 |
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|fairdmg=3% (hits 1-4), 5% (hit 5) |
|fairdmg=3% (hits 1-4), 5% (hit 5) |
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− | |fairdesc=Ness |
+ | |fairdesc=Ness extends both arms forward, shocking the enemy with PSI energy. A fast, multi-hitting move, with good range and high knockback on the last hit. |
|bairimage=Ness Back aerial SSBM.png |
|bairimage=Ness Back aerial SSBM.png |
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|uairdmg=13% |
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− | |uairdesc=Ness performs an upwards headbutt |
+ | |uairdesc=Ness performs an upwards headbutt and flips. This attack has amazing juggling potential and is a good KO move at high percents, but has short range. |
|dairimage=Ness Down aerial SSBM.png |
|dairimage=Ness Down aerial SSBM.png |
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|dairdmg=12% |
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− | |dairdesc=Ness kicks downward with one leg. This attack is a [[meteor smash]] that |
+ | |dairdesc=Ness kicks downward with one leg. This attack is a [[meteor smash]] that has strong knockback even at 0%, but its low knockback scaling prevents it for being an efficient finishing move off-stage at higher percents. |
|grabimage=Ness Grab SSBM.png |
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|dthrowdmg=1% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) |
|dthrowdmg=1% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) |
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− | |dthrowdesc=Ness slams the opponent to the ground and |
+ | |dthrowdesc=Ness slams the opponent to the ground and blasts them with PK Fire. |
|floorfimage=Ness Floor attack (front) SSBM.png |
|floorfimage=Ness Floor attack (front) SSBM.png |
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|ssname=PK Fire |
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|ssdmg=2% (lightning), 3% (pillar hit 1), 2% (pillar 2-7) |
|ssdmg=2% (lightning), 3% (pillar hit 1), 2% (pillar 2-7) |
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− | |ssdesc= |
+ | |ssdesc=Ness fires a lighting bolt that explodes into a pillar of flames if it hits an enemy. When grounded, Ness fires the lightning bolt horizontally, but when he's airborne, he throws the lightning bolt at a downward angle. |
|usimage=PK Thunder (SSBM).png |
|usimage=PK Thunder (SSBM).png |
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|usname=PK Thunder |
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===[[Taunt]]=== |
===[[Taunt]]=== |
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+ | *Ness turns to the screen and nods while saying "Okay". |
+ | ==[[Character matchups (SSBM)|Matchups]]== |
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− | ===[[Crowd|Crowd cheer]]=== |
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− | {{Crowd |
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− | |char=Ness |
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− | |game=SSBM |
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− | |desc-us=Ness Ness Ness! |
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− | |desc-jp=Ness Ness Ness! |
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− | |pitch-us=Group chant |
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− | |pitch-jp=Group chant}} |
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− | ===[[List of victory poses (SSBM)|Victory poses]]=== |
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− | {{Victory/SSBM |
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− | |victory-theme=EarthBound (Mother) |
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− | |victory-desc=An orchestrated version of the final four Soundstone Melodies from ''EarthBound''. |
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− | |desc-1=Looks to the left and right of him, then places an arm on the back of his head in a bashful manner. |
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− | |desc-2=Swings around his bat four times, then poses with it. |
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− | |desc-3=Jumps up and down twice, places arms on waist, and says "Okay!" |
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− | |char=Ness}} |
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− | ==Matchups== |
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{{SSBMMatchupTable|ness=yes}} |
{{SSBMMatchupTable|ness=yes}} |
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− | ==In 1-P Mode== |
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− | ===[[Classic Mode]]=== |
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− | In Classic Mode, Ness can appear as an ordinary opponent, as an opponent in the team battles alongside {{SSBM|Yoshi}}, {{SSBM|Peach}}, or {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}, as a member of a multi-character battle, as a metal opponent, or as an ally in team battle. In Ness's appearance, he appears on either [[Eagleland: Onett|Onett]] or [[Eagleland: Fourside|Fourside]] (if unlocked) as a regular opponent and on {{SSBM|Battlefield}} as a metal opponent. When on a team with Yoshi, he appears on {{SSBM|Yoshi's Island}}. |
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− | ===[[Adventure Mode]]=== |
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− | Ness's appearance in the [[Adventure Mode]] is in Stage 9: Onett. In the stage, the player must fight against three computer players, each one being Ness, on Onett; in the fight, the only item that appear is [[Mr. Saturn]]. The player must defeat all three opponents within five minutes to continue. |
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− | ===[[All-Star Mode]]=== |
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− | Ness and his allies are fought on [[Eagleland: Onett|Onett]]. |
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− | ===[[Event Match]]es=== |
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− | Ness is featured in the following event matches: |
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− | *'''[[Event 5: Spare Change]]''': the player controls Ness and fights {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} in a coin battle on Onett. The player must collect 200 coins within 80 seconds in order to clear the event. |
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− | *'''[[Event 30: All-Star Match 3]]''': Ness is the third opponent to be fought in this series of staged battles. The player battles him on [[Eagleland: Onett|Onett]], which will transition to the next stage if Ness gets defeated. With a timer of four minutes, the player must defeat him along with {{SSBM|Kirby}}, {{SSBM|Pikachu}} and the {{SSBM|Ice Climbers}}. |
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− | *'''[[Event 36: Space Travelers]]''': As Ness, the player must defeat {{SSBM|Samus}}, Kirby, {{SSBM|Fox}}, Captain Falcon, and {{SSBM|Falco}}. The player battles the first three characters on [[Eagleland: Fourside|Fourside]] and battles the last two on {{SSBM|Battlefield}}. |
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==Trophy descriptions== |
==Trophy descriptions== |
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Revision as of 19:12, 5 March 2019
- This page is about Ness's appearance in Super Smash Bros. Melee. For the character in other contexts, see Ness.
“ | A psychic boy with a distinct midair jump. | ” |
—Description from Melee's manual. |
Ness (ネス, Ness) is a starter character in Super Smash Bros. Melee. Announced at E3 2001, he was originally going to be replaced by Lucas from Mother 3; the ultimate cancellation of the game for the Nintendo 64, however, caused Masahiro Sakurai to retain Ness.
He is currently ranked 23rd in the F tier. While still having fantastic throws and a great aerial game due to his double jump cancel, Ness has a poor approach on the ground and in the air due to significant range issues in most of his attacks; his recovery is also easy to intercept and edge-guard against, and he also has significant trouble KOing opponents, again owing to his poor range. As a result of these significant weaknesses, Ness has terrible matchups with six nearly unwinnable, one even (against Yoshi), and only three slightly favorable (against Bowser, Kirby, and Pichu).
Attributes
Ness is a character known for his good Aerial Attacks, overall bad priority, and a variety of projectiles. His Forward Throw is good for knockback. His Back Throw is the strongest in the game. His Up and Down throws are good for setting up combos. However, Ness's standing grab range is the second shortest (next to Pikachu), and his running grab the shortest, which means his throws are usually unused in battle.
His Aerial Attacks are good for comboing, KOing, and edgeguarding. Ness's Down Aerial is a Meteor Smash with decent range, but it's slow. Three out of four of Ness's Special Moves are projectiles. However, they are overall slow and have various amounts of cooldown time and start-up lag with them. Additionally, each one has very limited use, making them all situational, with an exception to PK Thunder, which is good for edgeguarding, juggling, and mindgames.
A majority of Ness's attacks are fast with little lag, but many of his attacks are also short-ranged. Ness has a powerful Side Smash that can reflect projectiles, but his Up and Down smashes are weak and nearly useless, except in tech chasing. Ness can reflect projectiles with his body during his Side Smash, and he can use his Down Special Move, PSI Magnet, to absorb energy projectiles and lower his percentage, but it is quite slow.
Ness has fairly slow dash speed, but his fast, although short wavedash can help this problem. Ness also has an effective (as well as the lowest) double jump cancel. Ness's main form of recovery is PK Thunder 2. When mastered, this covers great distance and is very powerful (and having a large sweetspot range and very high second jump also helps his recovery). However, it takes great amounts of precision to angle in certain instances, and Ness is extremely vunerable while his PK Thunder is out; because if it is hit by a high priority projectile or the opponent, Ness will fall into a helpless state.
Changes from Smash 64 to Melee
Ness was overwhelmingly nerfed in his transition from Smash 64 to Melee, despite being ranked 10th on the Smash 64 Tier list. His nerfs significantly counter the various buffs he received, with his nerfs impairing his already-poor recovery, and significantly reducing his KO options. As a result, Ness has a lower tier placing in Melee; while already placing in the low tier of Smash 64, Ness is currently bottom tiered in Melee, and he is now regarded as non-viable in tournaments.
Aesthetics
- Ness's grounded jump is no longer psychokinetic.
- Ness has new voice samples.
- Ness's backpack is two strapped.
Attributes
- Ness is heavier, now being a middleweight.
- Ness's air speed and dashing speed were greatly improved. Walking speed was improved to a lesser extent.
- The speed and reach of Ness's attacks was generally decreased.
Ground Attacks
- Ness now has access to the Yo-yo glitch.
- Forward tilt is much stronger.
- Down tilt is much faster.
- Dash attack does more damage and has more range.
- Forward smash now has longer reach and is faster.
- Both his up and down smashes have less reach and they have been drastically weakened to the point where they can no longer KO at realistic percentages.
Aerial Attacks
- Just like Yoshi, Ness's DJC'd combos are slower and harder to perform, although those are still relatively powerful.
- Neutral aerial animation has been changed to a spin rather than a split kick.
- Both his forward and back aerials have psychokinetic properties.
- Forward aerial deals more damage and has more range.
- Up aerial has more reach with a bigger hitbox.
- Ness's head no longer has intangibility frames when performing the attack.
- Down aerial has much higher base knockback, making it a deadly 0-death KO tool if not meteor-canceled.
Grabs and Throws
- Ness has been given an up throw and a down throw, providing him with more options.
- Both his forward and back throws deal less damage (16% → 11%).
Special Moves
- Ness now has a new neutral special move, PK Flash. PK Fire was moved to Ness's side special move.
- PK Fire travels a smaller distance, and it is now considerably easier to DI out of.
- PK Thunder travels faster, and it has a tighter radius which it can travel.
- PSI Magnet is considerably faster, improving Ness's defensive game.
- The color of PSI Magnet is now blue instead of green.
- The crowd no longer cheers when Ness absorbs a projectile with PSI Magnet.
Moveset
Image | Name | Damage | Description | ||
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Neutral attack | 3% | Ness punches forward twice, then kicks the opponent away. | |||
2% | |||||
4% | |||||
Forward tilt | ↗ | 12% | Ness does a forward roundhouse kick. This attack can be aimed up or down. | ||
→ | 11% | ||||
↘ | 10% | ||||
Up tilt | 7% | Ness thrusts both hands upward. Ness's head is invulnerable during the early part of the animation. | |||
Down tilt | 3% | Ness thrusts one leg forward while crouching. This attack can combo into itself at early percentages. | |||
Dash attack | 5% (hit 1), 4% (hits 2-3) | Ness dashes forward and extends both arms, sending out three sparks of PSI energy forward. This attack launches the opponent in random directions. | |||
Forward smash | 18% (body), 20% (bat base), 22% (bat mid), 24% (bat tip) | Ness swings his baseball bat horizontally forward. The bat can reflect projectiles. | |||
Up smash | 9% (startup), 4% (charging), 6% (attack) | Ness does a variation on the "around the world" yo-yo trick by swinging his yo-yo above his head. Has good range, speed and knockback and has very potent juggling, tech-chasing and spacing ability. Can be used to perform the powerful Yo-yo Glitch. The attack has a hitbox while charging. | |||
Down smash | 11% (startup), 4% (charging), 7% (attack) | Ness sends his yo-yo backwards and "walks the dog" with it before pulling the yo-yo back. This attack has good range, speed and knockback, along with having very potent juggling, tech-chasing ability and spacing ability. More powerful than the up smash in terms of power and knockback and contains a hitbox while charging. | |||
Neutral aerial | 11% (clean), 8% (late) | Ness spins around with both arms outstretched. Has good knockback, useful for spacing. | |||
Forward aerial | 3% (hits 1-4), 5% (hit 5) | Ness extends both arms forward, shocking the enemy with PSI energy. A fast, multi-hitting move, with good range and high knockback on the last hit. | |||
Back aerial | 16% (clean), 10% (late) | Ness performs a reverse dropkick. When hit at the beginning to the attack, it electrocutes the foe and launchess them at a semi-spike trajectory. The fourth most powerful back aerial in Melee. | |||
Up aerial | 13% | Ness performs an upwards headbutt and flips. This attack has amazing juggling potential and is a good KO move at high percents, but has short range. | |||
Down aerial | 12% | Ness kicks downward with one leg. This attack is a meteor smash that has strong knockback even at 0%, but its low knockback scaling prevents it for being an efficient finishing move off-stage at higher percents. | |||
Grab | — | ||||
Pummel | 3% | Headbutts the opponent. | |||
Forward throw | 11% | Ness psychically throws the opponent forward. Has very high knockback. | |||
Back throw | 11% | Ness psychically lifts the opponent over his head then tosses them away. Ness's strongest throw and one of the strongest back throws in the game. | |||
Up throw | 10% | Ness psychically spins the opponent above his head and throws them upwards. | |||
Down throw | 1% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) | Ness slams the opponent to the ground and blasts them with PK Fire. | |||
Floor attack (front) | 6% | Ness punches on both sides whilst getting up. | |||
Floor attack (back) | 6% | Ness gets up and does a sweep kick with both feet. | |||
Edge attack (fast) | 8% | Ness somersaults onto the stage and performs an upward dropkick attack. | |||
Edge attack (slow) | 10% | Ness slowly picks himself up and does a jump kick. | |||
Neutral special | PK Flash | 11-36% | Ness launches an electrical blast that rises vertically over his head. As the B button is held, the projectile begins to move downwards and increases in power, which explodes if too much time passes or if the B button gets released. | ||
Side special | PK Fire | 2% (lightning), 3% (pillar hit 1), 2% (pillar 2-7) | Ness fires a lighting bolt that explodes into a pillar of flames if it hits an enemy. When grounded, Ness fires the lightning bolt horizontally, but when he's airborne, he throws the lightning bolt at a downward angle. | ||
Up special | PK Thunder | 8% (thunder head), 1% (thunder tail), 25% (PK Thunder 2 clean), 20% (PK Thunder 2 late) | Ness releases a bolt of lightning that can aimed into opponents to deal damage with the head and stun them with the tail. Aiming the head into Ness himself will launch him in a trajectory opposite to the side he was hit on, which is referred to as PK Thunder 2. PK Thunder 2 has invincibility frames during the first half of the move. When used in the air, Ness will begin to fall slowly. | ||
Down special | PSI Magnet | 0%, heals 2.0x the damage of absorbed projectiles | Ness surrounds himself in a blue energy field which absorbs energy-based projectiles. Holding the B button allows Ness to use it infinitely. |
Taunt
- Ness turns to the screen and nods while saying "Okay".
Matchups
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Trophy descriptions
In addition to the normal trophy about Ness as a character, there are two trophies about him as a fighter, unlocked by completing the Adventure and All-Star modes respectively with Ness on any difficulty.
- Ness
- Ness is a young boy who's mastered the psychic power known as PSI. Ness was living a normal life in the suburbs of Onett until a meteor crashed into a nearby mountain and sent him on a wild adventure. Believing in the ultimate powers of wisdom, courage, and friendship, Ness proves that some heroes come in small packages.
- EarthBound (06/95)
- Ness (Smash Red)
- The key to mastering Ness is controlling his unique midair jump, which makes up for what he lacks in speed. His PK Flash attack may seem weak at first glance, but it grows more powerful the longer you hold down the B button. To do a lot of damage with PK Fire, try to burn your opponent as many times as possible.
- Ness (Smash Blue)
- Ness's mind is his best weapon. PK Thunder is a PSI missile weapon that can be guided using the Control Stick, and if Ness hits himself with it, he turns into a living missile capable of doing massive damage. This move can also be used for recovery. PSI Magnet turns energy missile attacks into health; try out certain Pokémon for stamina replenishment.
- Up & B: PK Thunder
- Down & B: PSI Magnet
Alternate Costumes
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Mother/EarthBound universe | ||
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Characters | Ness (64 · Melee · Brawl · 3DS/Wii U · Ultimate) Lucas (Brawl · 3DS/Wii U · Ultimate) | |
Side Characters | Final Smash | Paula · Poo · Kumatora · Boney |
Bosses | Porky Statue · Porky Minch | |
Assist Trophies | Jeff Andonuts · Starman | |
Mii Fighter Costumes | Flying Man | |
Stage Hazards | Ultimate Chimera · Flying Man | |
Enemies | Devil Car · Starman | |
Stages | Onett · Fourside · New Pork City · Magicant | |
Items | Mr. Saturn · Franklin Badge · Ramblin' Evil Mushroom | |
Music | List of Music (Mother/EarthBound series) | |
Collectibles | Trophies | Melee Trophies · Brawl Trophies · 3DS Trophies · Wii U Trophies |
Stickers | List of Stickers (Mother/EarthBound series) | |
Spirits | List of spirits (EarthBound/MOTHER series) | |
Masterpieces | Mother 2/EarthBound |