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==Similar Moves== |
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+ | There are several other moves similar to Counter: [[Double Team]], [[Toad (move)|Toad]], [[Slip Counter]], [[Substitute]], [[Vision]], [[Counter Surge]], [[Interception Arm]], and (to a lesser extent) Wolf's [[Reflector#Wolf O'Donnell|Reflector]]. |
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Revision as of 01:59, 9 January 2016
- This article is about the move. Counter can also be used to describe a match-up that strongly favors one character.
Counter (カウンター Kauntā?) is the name of a move belonging to several characters in the Super Smash Bros. series, namely, the characters from the Fire Emblem series.
Overview
The character will strike a pose and a small, metallic "chink" sound will be heard. For about a second, any attack they are struck by (other than a grab) will turn them invincible for the duration of their retaliating swing. If the attack is a projectile (such as Samus' Missile), it will simply be deflected behind them and upwards at about a 30 degree angle. It is worth noting explosive projectiles can still explode and will still do damage if they are struck when the invincibility ceases. If the attack is a Smash Attack, then the attacker will be knocked back at a 90 degree angle. If used in conjunction with Mr. Game and Watch's Oil Panic, it is the most powerful non-charged attack in Melee, if Oil Panic has absorbed the most possible amount of damage, which is 250% damage and delivers an OHKO. It can be countered again for even more damage.
Marth
Marth's Counter deals up to 7% damage, regardless of the attack. Marth's Counter has a faster start-up time and lasts slightly longer than Roy's Counter, which makes Marth's Counter more effective but less damaging.
In Brawl, Marth's Counter reflects back x1.1 damage, with a minimum damage of 8%.
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| Marth's Special Moves | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Melee | Brawl | 3DS/Wii U | Ultimate | |
| Standard Special | Shield Breaker | |||
| Side Special | Dancing Blade | |||
| Up Special | Dolphin Slash | |||
| Down Special | Counter | |||
| Final Smash | — | Critical Hit | ||
Lucina
Lucina also has this attack as her Down Special Moves in Super Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS.
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| Lucina's Special Moves | ||
|---|---|---|
| 3DS/Wii U | Ultimate | |
| Standard Special | Shield Breaker | |
| Side Special | Dancing Blade | |
| Up Special | Dolphin Slash | |
| Down Special | Counter | |
| Final Smash | Critical Hit | |
Custom Variations (Marth & Lucina)
In Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U, with the introducion of Custom Moves, Marth and Lucina have 2 variations of Counter.
Easy Counter
Easy Counter is one of Marth and Lucina's Down Special Moves that can be used via customizations. The counterattack stance lasts longer, but the launch power is decreased.
Strengths:
- Counter window is greater
Weaknesses:
- Less damage and knockback.
Differences:
- Marth's sword deals more damage at the tip.
Easy Counter has a bigger counter window, so Marth and Lucina are more likely to counter an incoming attack when it is used. However, the counter attack won't deal as much damage or knockback as a result.
Iai Counter
Iai Counter is one of Marth and Lucina's Down Special Moves that can be used via customizations. When they do the counterattack, they can knock opponents behind them. The damage is decreased.
Strengths:
- Moves forwards
- Faster attack
- Hits opponents that are behind you
Weaknesses:
- Less damage
- Moves like Wario's Bike and Bowser Jr.'s Clown Kart Dash won't be hit by the counter attack
Differences:
- Marth has the sword tipper.
The move Iai Counter will have Marth or Lucina move past the opponent and hit them with the sword from behind, much like Shulk's Vision when input past the opponent. The move is executed faster but not fast enough to hit enemy attacks that go past opponents like Wario's Bike, Fox's Fox Illusion, and even Ness's PK Thunder when used on himself. The move also deals less damage.
| Marth's Custom Special Moves | ||
|---|---|---|
| Custom 1 | Custom 2 | |
| Standard Special | Storm Thrust | Dashing Assault |
| Side Special | Effortless Blade | Heavy Blade |
| Up Special | Crescent Slash | Dolphin Jump |
| Down Special | Easy Counter | Iai Counter |
| Lucina's Custom Special Moves | ||
|---|---|---|
| Custom 1 | Custom 2 | |
| Standard Special | Storm Thrust | Dashing Assault |
| Side Special | Effortless Blade | Heavy Blade |
| Up Special | Crescent Slash | Dolphin Jump |
| Down Special | Easy Counter | Iai Counter |
Roy
Roy's deals 1.5 times the original attack's damage. Roy's Counter has a slower start-up time, and lasts slightly less than Marth's Counter.
| Roy's Special Moves | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Melee | 3DS/Wii U | Ultimate | |
| Standard Special | Flare Blade | ||
| Side Special | Double-Edge Dance | ||
| Up Special | Blazer | ||
| Down Special | Counter | ||
| Final Smash | — | Critical Hit | |
Ike
Ike also has this attack as his Down Special Move in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Ike's Counter is not as fast as Marth's (counter frames start roughly 6 frames after Marth's), but reflects back x1.2 damage, with the minimum damage being 10%.
Since Ike's Counter is a bit slower, it cannot be used for immediate countering. However, he makes up for this by having more knockback and greater range. Although Marth and Ike both have the same duration of counter frames, Ike has less vulnerability after the counter frames end, due to the slightly slower activation of his. Both Counters last the same amount of time from start (initiating the command) to finish (when the player is free to move again); Marth's simply activates faster, but his counter frames end 6 frames before Ike's. Marth's Counter leaves him vulnerable at the end of the attack while Ike's counter leaves him vulnerable at the beginning. If Marth or Ike counter a large hitbox such as Mr. Game and Watch's Oil Panic (after absorbing three strong enough projectiles that does 60% damage), it will One-hit KO anyone who is very close to Marth or Ike.
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| Ike's Special Moves | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Brawl | 3DS/Wii U | Ultimate | |
| Standard Special | Eruption | ||
| Side Special | Quick Draw | ||
| Up Special | Aether | ||
| Down Special | Counter | ||
| Final Smash | Great Aether | ||
Custom Variations (Ike)
In Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U, with the introducion of Custom Moves, Ike has 2 variations of Counter.
Paralyzing Counter
Paralyzing Counter is one of Ike's Down Special Move that can be used via customizations. It's a counter that paralyzes enemies instead of dealing damage.
Smash Counter
Smash Counter is one of Ike's Down Special Move that can be used via customizations. The move delivers a slower, more powerful attack when countering.
| Ike's Custom Special Moves | ||
|---|---|---|
| Custom 1 | Custom 2 | |
| Standard Special | Tempest | Furious Eruption |
| Side Special | Close Combat | Unyielding Blade |
| Up Special | Aether Drive | Aether Wave |
| Down Special | Paralyzing Counter | Smash Counter |
Palutena
Palutena also has this attack as one of her Down Special Moves in Super Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS.
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Mii Swordfighter
The Mii Swordfighter also has this attack as one of their Down Special Moves in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U. It's referred to as Blade Counter
Overview
Strengths:
- Counters enemy attacks
- Multiplies damage of enemy attack into the counter-attack
- Good for interrupting enemy combos or edge-guard attempts
Weaknesses:
- Can be punished by a grab
- Overuse of the move can lead to being easy to predict and punish
Blade Counter is a great move for players that like having a defensive option that can help them to escape from a sticky situation. The counter-attack will result in Mii Swordfighter taking no damage from the enemy attack, multiplying the damage of the enemy attack, and then placing this damage into the counter-attack; powerful enemy attacks make for devastating counter-attacks. The move is also great for escaping an enemy combo by interrupting it with a counter of their next attack or for foiling edge-guard attempts by countering an enemy down aerial. The Blade Counter is weak to grabs since they cannot be countered, and overuse of the move can make it all too obvious to an opponent that Mii Swordfighter is going to counter again, allowing them to punish accordingly.
Similar Moves
There are several other moves similar to Counter: Double Team, Toad, Slip Counter, Substitute, Vision, Counter Surge, Interception Arm, and (to a lesser extent) Wolf's Reflector.
Origin
This move seems to be based on the fact that, in the Fire Emblem games, characters can counterattack when an enemy attacks them. However, starting from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, a battle skill of the same name was made. In Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn the skill inflicts half the damage dealt to the user back at the attacker. In Awakening, Counter inflicts the same amount damage to the attacker that the user receives as long as the user is not killed.
Masahiro Sakurai actually confirmed in a recent interview that the Counter move (concerning Fire Emblem characters) was based on the phase battle system of the Fire Emblem games, in which the player would take a turn moving their units and then all the enemy units would move in, and that the Counter move was to illustrate this system of battle.
Palutena's Counter originates from the power of the same name featured in Kid Icarus: Uprising that allowed the user to be immune to knockback from enemy attacks and counterattack enemies.
Trivia
- Marth's Counter can be used on Kirby's Inhale attack in Brawl or any other Vacuum created by an attack.
- If three or more Marths are playing, it is possible to repeatedly Counter to huge amounts of damage. For this to work with Ike or Roy, who have slower counter strikes and slower counter activations than Marth, it is recommended to have four players play as Ike or Roy.
- Marth can use Counter on the tides of lava and acid on Norfair and Brinstar. When the stage-wide wave of lava appears on Norfair, Marth can stand outside of the Capsule and time Counter correctly to avoid the damage.
- It is possible to counter Sing.