User talk:Clarinet Hawk/Archive 2

Vandals
'''Please list the names/IP's of potential vandals here. Also, if possible, tell me the page(s) they vandalized so that I can verify the claim and assess the damage. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 02:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)'''

User:Huntereagle1 keeps putting "kittens" on everything and erasing the rest. Kperfekt722 (talk) 20:58, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

88.111.78.199 was advertising links into SSBB character pages, I did revert most (if not, all) of the damage that he did. I gave him a warning. I just wanted to let you know, if he does it again. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 17:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC))

Eebrozgi and Jonttutan have made two joke Smasher articles. (along with their respective talk pages) (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 00:00, 30 June 2008 (UTC))
 * Smasher:Jonttutan
 * Smasher:Eebrozgi
 * With Smasher and User pages, we generally won't delete them unless there's offensive material on them. Lot's of people lie about where they live, so someone saying on Mars is at least being honest about being dishonest.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 14:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

User: White Bread keeps making changes to other peoples user pages, including yours. The edits are uneeded.Please tell him to stop. I'm concerned he might change my user page next. Masterman (talk) 23:03, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm looking to stop liars and elitists who need to prove their worth. I'm not looking for trouble.White Bread (talk)
 * Editing the user pages of sysops is always looking for trouble. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 21:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Joemansmash has made a lie on the List of Characters.It said something about an Unknown 36th character. I erased the crap but i think he needs a good block. He could be a dual affender. Zmario (talk) 22:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops wrong page. is the one he vandilized. Zmario (talk) 22:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

68.190.228.115 vandilized Unlockables (Brawl) by putting fake/made up characters. I undid it. Zmario (talk) 23:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

White Bread vandilzed yet another smasher page! he personally attacked the smasher.Zmario (talk) 23:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

What is this nonsense? I did not personally "attack" a smasher.White Bread (talk)
 * Yes you did. Enjoy your ban.  If you do something like this when you get back, I will ban you permanently.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 17:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Eliboyte uploaded a picture of Spongebob. he also made a spam/joke page labled Smasher:Mater Zmario (talk) 20:12, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh I know ghow to get the comment in the warning box. I just wanted to give him a VERBAL warning. Zmario (talk) 22:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

speaking of vandals... 208.111.221.1 - he keeps putting the words penis and hurf durf in everything lol Kperfekt722 (talk) 03:44, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

70.21.103.46 vandilzed the User:Pwnage4twins page and then the Red Socks smasher's page.Zmario (talk) 22:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

70.241.75.2 removed all content from the Final Smash page. Zmario (talk) 22:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

67.81.120.118‎ vandalized Smasher:KoRoBeNiKi. I did, however, give him a warning. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 23:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC))

User:Huntereagle1 vandilezed the Super Smash Flash 2 page, the Super Smash Flash page, and the Nobou composer page. Zmario (talk) 21:28, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Facts
The fact I wrote that you removed doesn't need to be interesting. It just needs to be a FACT- which it was. I agree that the Bob-omb part was unnecessary but you shouldn't have removed the whole thing. -Schewe (talk) 03:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, facts that go on the main page do need to be interesting. The point of the main page is that it's catchy.  If all our facts were just in the line of "Fox's reflector has set knockback" it would be quite boring.  Only about a third of the facts that get put up remain up for more than 24 hours.  We want the information to be interesting so that people have a reason to continue reading this wiki.  As for your specific fact, we had something very similar a few weeks ago and it too got taken down for not being interesting.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 04:21, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I see. My apologies. -Schewe (talk) 08:33, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank You & Apology
Thanks for warning Zmario. It irritates me to no end when people think this is an image-hosting service. He removed the speedy deletion template four times on his Smash Card. I've told him again and again to upload it to an image hosting site, but he won't.

I made categories to unattended articles, yet not marking them for deletion. That just puts more work on you and the other sysops, you have my apologies. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 05:18, 28 June 2008 (UTC))

Email
I have some things I'd like to tell you/ask you. I don't want to announce it in public, so could we please discuss in email? (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 23:12, 28 June 2008 (UTC))

Opinions On Users
Wolf O'Donnell and I were discussing this issue last night. You see, Zmario, Kperfekt, and I all have a section on our user pages titled "My Opinion On Other Users". Basically, we type a user's name and describe what we think about them. However, Zmario's section got deleted by Randall, because he believed it was a form of a personal attack. However, I read Zmario's section myself, and he had nothing offensive on there. So, I turn to you in this confusing predicament. What do you believe defines a personal attack? If you simply state that you don't like someone, is that a personal attack? Was making a section of this nature a potential personal attack to begin with? - GalaxiaD (talk) 16:59, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've seen each of your "opinions" sections and no, they don't constitute personal attacks. However, I really don't think there necessary on this wiki either.  As much as I am glad that you all think I'm a great sysop, Randall has a point that they could turn into personal attacks.  Some of the comments about him in particular were quite close and I can see why he would take them as an attack at him.  If you want to let users know what you think of them, use there talk pages but be respectful and polite.  But for the sake of ending drama that never needed to be started, let's get rid of the "opinions on users" sections.  I'll let each of you take care of it yourself.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 19:52, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Alas, their continued correspondence is riddled with personal attacks and petty name-calling--thanks for trying to mediate all this, CH, I appreciate it. But they're as good as banned as soon as I find the time. This is not a constructive environment with this garbage at the forefront and from my point of view, it'll be tough to get the wiki back on its feet unless they take a light vacation. -- RJM Talk 22:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Randal, don't ban them yet. I'm going to issue each one of them a final message telling them to end all of this.  If they do not heed it, I won't get in the way of you doing what you need to, but please let me give them this one last chance.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 01:45, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I got your message, CH, and I posted an apology to Randall himself earlier. I've also asked my friends to not talk about him anymore, in hopes of staying on this wiki. I wouldn't want to get banned, and I assume my friends don't want that either. We'll treat him with more respect, I promise. I'm ready to move on and improve this wiki, just like you. Moreover, I just want to thank you for sticking up for us. You're a very nice person and an excellent sysop. Keep up the good work, dude. - GalaxiaD (talk) 02:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

yo
well, uh first I came here to ask you if paragoomba348 (or whatever those numbers are) got banned. also, whats up? lol Kperfekt722 (talk) 19:19, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Paragoomba got banned for 50 hours for removing deletion tags from an advertising article that he made. His ban is now over.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 19:52, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * yayyy lol. Kperfekt722 (talk) 20:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Super Smash Bros. Rush
I'm sorry for bothering you, but could you please help with the decision regarding Super Smash Bros Rush's deletion? (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 23:10, 29 June 2008 (UTC))

Regarding the article(s) that are advertisements, I like your "standard". (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 18:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC))

Yes, this is over
Sigh, thank you for going in there and giving us a warning, whereas Randall would have banned us on the spot... JtM (talk) 02:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * When I said this is over, I meant the we were not going to comment on anyone any more. Stop making comments on what Randall would've done like it's a bad thing.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 02:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

ok, im done. thank you for bringing this to all of us. uh, you do know that wolfodonnel and randall were never butting heads, right? Kperfekt722 (talk) 02:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I thought it's been over for a while. Well, sorry anyway, and I got Brawl, if you wanna play. Ike6481 (talk) 15:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Honest to god unrelated note
How do I reach the banned users log? i swear this has no relation to the "soap opera" that went on, but instead has to do with one of my jackass friends that i think might have vandalised this wiki. Cuz if he did imma have to go kick his ass lol. Kperfekt722 (talk) 02:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * When you're in the recent changes page, there's a list of logs at the top. One of them says blocks.  That's the one you want.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 02:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want to access it in the future, just go to special:log, then click the correct dropdown. --Sky (t · c · w) 02:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * thx guys. i was pretty sure it was him, and if i wouldn't have found it i probably would have been pissed at him anyways. turns out it wasn't him. close one, right? lol Kperfekt722 (talk) 17:13, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

IPs
Ask that question by using Special:Contact. --Sky (t · c · w) 02:34, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Sysop Guide
Not that you'll be needing this, but I thought I'd share it with you, just incase you may need it. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 19:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC))
 * Sysop Guide

Sky2042
I'm sure you're aware of the apology I posted to Randall on his talk page during the last hours of the "soap opera". However, I recently checked back to that section to see if he left a response. I saw a response, but it was instead from Sky, and he stated that my friends and I must (and I mean MUST) contribute to this wiki if we're to stay on here. He's basically forcing work upon us and stating that we're a "club" that doesn't belong here. Even though we've promised to no longer personally attack people and we've never vandalized any pages here, he's still saying he'll block us if we don't work. Granted, making contributions to this site is something we enjoy very much, but we like to converse with each other even more. That's what a TALK PAGE is for, right? I'm once again concerned that I could get banned. Overall, I just don't feel safe here anymore. - GalaxiaD (talk) 05:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Clarinet Hawk, I hope you don't mind if I state my opinion here. Isn't the main reason to be a user here is to contribute to the wiki? I don't think you should be banned if you're inactive, although you should do more than talk most the time. No offense.(Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 06:11, 2 July 2008 (UTC))

Oh, on another note, he said you may leave if you do not do anything to improve the wiki besides MySpace it. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 06:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC))

It's not that we don't contribute at all, it's just that we don't make that many. I recently contributed to the Groudon article today, and my friends have also made contributions here and there. I'm willing to admit that Zmario and I haven't made enough contribs to become sysops, so you can remove our applications if you wish. - GalaxiaD (talk) 06:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sure Sky didn't mean that you will be banned for inactivity. What he meant is that the primary reason for being a user on this wiki is to contribute content to it.  If you have occasional outside conversations with people (like wishin someone a happy birthday on their talk page), that's fine.  However, creating SmashChat pages and using user talk pages like e-mail is not what this wiki is for.  There are numerous free e-mail, chat room, message board, and instant messenger services avalible on the internet.  If you guys want to chat, do so there.  We're not going to ban you simply because you only post once a week.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 14:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Fail!
Once again I fail at helping. I tried to help but in the end if just ended up making more work for you sysops. Thats another good reason I want to become a sysop. I don't want to do anything bad, I just want to help like I tried to do. I want to merge page histories. I want to ban spammers. I want to do it all. Im even a featured user! But, alas, I still fail. I don't think I'm EVER going to be sysop material. Rita is right. Maybe in a few years. Zmario (talk) 17:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't take it so hard, man. I made the mistake myself a few times, even now that I am a sysop.  I know that you try to help around this wiki, even if you do occasionally get on my nerves.  Just keep doing what you've been doing.   To be honest, it's no more work for the sysops, I just don't want you having to bother with edits that are going to get undone as part of the maintenance.  Again, thanks for trying to help out.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 17:32, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

help
how can i get rid of the note you left me about my ban please tell me on my talk page, Colter111
 * I can't take care of it right now, but I'll get it done tonight. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 20:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Mario Circuit Problem
I took a snapshot of my view of the page. It is http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s257/jac0103/MarioCircuitProblem2.jpg?t=1215024518

One of the snapshots from the game is overlapping the template. The advertising is pushing the template down the page. That's all.

--Jac0103 (talk) 18:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

togetic
sorry i'll see if he's a trophy/sticker Colter111 (talk) 01:33, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Warning
I apologize about giving the vandal warnings instead of contacting you about it.. I shouldn't have given it a chance.. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 02:29, 4 July 2008 (UTC))

Oh, the warnings are forged. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 02:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC))


 * Don't worry, you did the right thing giving the warnings. I added that template so that I could seen who had been doing vandalism.  I just happened to log on at the right time to catch that prick.  What do you mean by "the warnings are forged?"  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 02:45, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You told me to "forge the warnings". I assume you meant to ignore/remove them? (Despite that they're not removed). (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 02:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC))


 * That was supposed to be forget. One of the many funny typos that occur when I've had a bit to drink.  Just ask my roommate.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 02:49, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I didn't even consider the possibility of a misspelling. Have more to drink! Please? ^^; (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 02:51, 4 July 2008 (UTC))

Anti-Vandal Script Userpage
Hello. I was wondering if I could create then add the text "location of anti-vandal script" to the userpage of the Anti-Vandal script? To those who use it, it would make the format much better. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 03:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC))


 * Oh, I forgot to thank you for the barnstar. Thank you. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 03:41, 4 July 2008 (UTC))
 * Talk to Sky about that one. He'll know better than I would.  Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 11:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Happy One Month Late Birthday!
Yeah, no one gave you a happy bithday for 1 month so I might as well be the first Zmario (talk) 11:22, 4 July 2008 (UTC)