User blog comment:Matt Hadick/Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS Tips and Tricks/@comment-5401852-20141218021833

Palutena: You can probably edeguard with Auto Reticle, Explosive Flame, Reflect, Side Smash and Up Smash, depending on your opponent. You can use f-air and b-air before you land on the ground to land a surprise attack on your opponents.

Robin: (Not 100% guaranteed) Do a small jump while you have Thoron charged while the opponent is landing on-stage, it will take it by surprise and Thoron will hit it without the enemy noticing. You can also edgeguard with Arcfire at a certain distance.