User talk:Squallinoa 08/Archive 1

Doesn't making pages for "the fans" count as editing a page?  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 02:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really, but it can give fans something to do if they don't wanna edit pages. I mean like, the Smash Arena is a fine example for something that fans can do. Discussion boards is also a good idea too! Give the fans what they want. I know that this is a encylopedia about SSBs, but still it's great to have some sort of fanboyish stuff. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 02:11, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it counts as editing. You make the page, which is editing, and "the fans" vote, by editing.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 02:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * What I mean by editing pages is editing the encylopedia! Yea sure they "edit" EVERYWHERE on the site, but yet, they are editing for some fan stuff. Can I make a petition to see if everyone thinks that my idea is great for this site? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 02:18, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Dude, we've done petitions for unbanning, and that didn't work. Fyre even crossed out one or more of the petitions (the banned users were friends, and are currently members of the crew I'm in).  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 02:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

How bout this. Why don't we try it out! I want to put the Smash Arena back on the main page. If people go on it and vote, support, and what not, then Smash Arena will stay on the wiki and I'll be under control of it. If it doesn't go as I planned it will be, then you, KirbyKing, Clarinet, and the other users can delete it and ban ALL fanboyish stuff that are created on this site (and yes, that includes the polls). So what do you say, deal? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 02:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

listen, MG is being smart about this. you are just trying to do something from a different wiki, and it doesn't work like that here. so, just go back to your original wiki, or just go with the flow of this wiki. Ok?   TALK  02:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I need MG answer first! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 02:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Dude, if you mean the polls Cafinator put up, that was suggested by him to the sysops, and I believe one of them was CH. Cafinator is currently banned (by Randall) for separate reasons, and Shadowcrest currently keeps maintenance of the polls. Cafinator didn't just ask one sysop, misinterpret their answer, and put it up on the main page. Oh, and thanks for the support, Xtrme.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 02:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Can we just try it? Maybe the fans will like it. I mean, the fans love the polls. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 02:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Fine! Make a petition. Just not on the main page. I can possibly guarantee that a sysop will cross it out.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 02:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Watch it
Your language and recent behavior have been fairly negative. This Wiki is for the fans, but remember it's a wiki. It's a collection of information, not an elaborate forum board. Learn to control such outbursts, you may not get a warning the next time around. Silverdragon706/FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 07:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

arena
You may want to count the votes sometime. I did it for you this time. (you can undo it if you want, I don't see any point).  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 02:47, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Why is it 2 points?  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 03:29, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Some of them may be too shy to show bias against characters. You may not get it, but certain people just function that way.   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 03:35, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It would get them to gain confidence, but I still disagree with it. About the SA (abbreviation), I'll make you a deal.  I'll help to spread the word about the SA if you help to spread the word about my "Main Page Petition" for putting the "Perfect Character" on the main page.  Tell them to go to the main page's talk page and support.  I know lots of people here, so yeah, I'll be a big help 2 U!   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 03:43, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Nah, we're gonna have to go "door-to-door." In other words, go to users talk pages and tell them to spread the word.  The main page's talk page is exclusively for main page stuff.   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 03:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Stop
Stop spamming everyone's talk page about the main page. If they're interested, they'll see the changes and comment on them. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 22:21, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * But it isn't just me, Cheezperson is also doing the same thing for his "perfect charcter" page. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 22:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It was my idea to do this, don't blame him.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 22:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but Cheez tells people he actually knows!  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 22:24, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * To comment on MG's statement, a complete stranger (some of them haven't been on in a while) is less likely to care. Tell people you've talked with.  And DON'T TALK TO VANDALS!!!   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 22:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Cheezperson, can we stop this main petition. I seriously don't wanna get yell at, AGAIN on this site. Especially by both Shadowcrest and Clarinet Hawk, who been hunting my ass since I've started Smash Arena. I'm sure there are ways to promote your Perfect Character forum and my SA forum instead of placing them on the main page. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 22:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I would think more of your so-called "campaign" for the Smash Arena if you didn't simply copy-pasta it on everyone's talk pages. You're being no better than a telemarketing auto-dialer. I like the Arena, but I don't think it's main page worthy. No, could you please stop this nonsense? {My name is Miles, and I approve this message.} 22:42, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * But FF wiki put their DNC (which is my SA) on their main page, and I'm sorry that I'm putting FF wiki into this conversation again. So tell me how can users find the page since almost all the users here don't go to the forums? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 22:45, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You've gotta stand up for yourself and your ideas! Just because they disagree with it doesn't mean that everybody else will.  About the petition, I'd sit on it for a while, wait until my crew does their thing.  I'll settle for advertising on the main page, but no less.  Also, on what Miles said, he's right.  If you look at what I did, I made it personal for each of the people I wrote to.  It takes longer, but it shows them that you care enough about their opinion that you'll take the time to write out a personal message.   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 22:46, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thats what I've been doing, but the admins don't like it and they all hate me. I ask the admins of FF wiki to help me since they're my friends, but none of their advices helped! Do you think you can help me? Do you think I can join your crew? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 22:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Back the truck up! Sorry man, our crew hardly knows you, and we haven't seen your skill in Brawl.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 22:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we have 11 right now (some are inactive), so sorry. I'd just wait and see if what we've done does something.   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 22:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I hope there's a way to promote it. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 22:30, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

SA box
That's pretty slick. That should be used as your advertising, with a personal comment, of course. That is main page worthy.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 05:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you should put it on your page so it can remind you of new fights. Since it's a template, the words should probably change. Say, do you know how to create logos or banners? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 05:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I do. Do you wants a logo 4 SA?   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 05:54, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, cuz the DNC at the FF wiki has one and it looks hella pretty. I got a image that wanted to use for the SA, but I want it to say "Super Smash Bros Wiki - SMASH ARENA" Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:06, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do. I've never really tried to put anything like that onto the wiki.  It'll be a good experiment.  It should be done around the time of the next battle.  Oh, can you kinda describe what you want?   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 06:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Heres the image:
 * [[Image:Super Smash Brawl.jpg]]
 * I want it to say, "Super Smash Bros Wiki". And at the bottom of it, "SMASH ARENA". Can you do it? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 06:15, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

THANK YOU! Oh yea, you think you can be able to get rid of the word "brawl" and change it to "wiki"? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:16, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * DK, Diddy, and Yoshi may be cut out, though. Anyways, I gotta work on something else.  See ya later!   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 06:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool, didn't like Diddy and DK. But is there another place for Yoshi? I actually like Yoshi cuz I kick ass with him. Anyways, I really wanna know why you helping me? Not that it's a bad thing, but I really wanna know though. Do you like the Smash Arena idea or something? Am I the only person that wanted change on this site? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 06:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm helping you because we made a deal, remember? Plus, I do like the idea.   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 22:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

...
Do you REALLY need to put the SA box thing on EVERYONE's(you get the idea) user page? I understand that you want people to vote and your enthusiastic about it but is posting that template everywhere really needed? And why is there a template for it in the first place? JtM =^&#93; (talk) 04:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, this. What you're doing is considered advertising, and that's frowned upon. Please stop that. Silverdragon706/FyreNWater - (T • C ) 09:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Nice knowing you. Fyre doesn't take kindly to titles like that...  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 21:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Why do guys hate me?! I'm just trying to do something that nobody on this site have ever done before. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 21:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

That's not what I meant. The title of your section is inappropriate. Anyway, she just wants you to stop advertising Smash Arena. She didn't say to stop Smash Arena itself (she voted in it for Pete's sake). Users will notice it if they check the forums.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 21:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you be honest with me, I won't get mad but, Do you hate me? Do you think that I should be ban from this site? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 21:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, you shouldn't you feel that this might go somewhere and it has... kinda. However, I do feel that you didnt need to make a template for it, considering some of the admins wouldn't even let you go through with the idea. JtM =^&#93; (talk) 02:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Smash Arena
It's admirable of you to single-handedly bring the DNC over here, Squallinoa. But you're going about it entirely the wrong way. The link to the arena, so I see, is in the forums, people will find it on their own, you don't need to send everyone a template for it. You also need to calm down a bit. The FF Wiki is not the SSB Wiki, just because something like the DNC works over there doesn't mean it will work well here. Maybe, if you handle it well and it becomes popular, in time the administration may consider moving it to the mainspace. But even if not, does having it in the forums compromise the arena? It's not that they hate you, you're just trying to shove a new idea down their throats and onto the mainspace. Anyone would be displeased with that.

I sincerely with you luck with the Smash Arena, but please, watch how you conduct yourself concerning it. The administrators are letting you have the Smash Arena at all, much less in its own forum space. Be thankful for that and happy running it as is. Drake Clawfang (talk)

Órale. Look dude. Just calm down and don't yell at the sysops, especially Fyre. I'm not warning you about behavior against sysops, I'm warning you about behavior against Fyre. She admitted on her User Page that she has a temper. You don't want to tick her off. Cheez warned you too.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 21:45, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm doomed am I? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 21:46, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't believe the gang knows about this, tbh. As for finding you, to be blunt, you've mentioned what you're doing here several times. I decided to come and take a look a few days ago, and saw what was going on.


 * EDIT CONFLICT: And you're not doomed, just take it down a few notches and stop going out of your way to smash heads with the administrators. Drake Clawfang (talk)


 * As I said, I merely came here when you spoke about what was happening here on the FF Wiki. Although I believe, when you leave a user a message on one wiki, the new messages alert appears across all of them. Drake Clawfang (talk)


 * Squallinoa, they haven't banned you yet, so quit while you're ahead and stop complaining/asking to be. I came here hoping that you would take the advice of a familiar face, please don't make my time a waste. Just...stop now, run the Smash Arena, and do a good job. They're letting you have it, what is there to fight for? Drake Clawfang (talk)


 * Ah yes, Blue Highwind, the Curly to my Moe. I'm sure he's concerned for me. After all without me, who would be able to counter his bitching about FF7 so fiercely? Drake Clawfang (talk)


 * Aw, don't worry. I'm sure they consider you a crazy psycho already. Drake Clawfang (talk)

I can't brawl today, but I'm probably free tomorrow.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 22:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about advertising anymore. You've gotten a ton of votes, and it's pretty self-sustaining now. This whole thing paid off (see, I told you), despite the sysop's annoyance. I'll start perfect character next Wednesday. Good job dude (or dudette possibly, you never know).  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 22:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

A few things: Did you want me to count up the votes? It's 26-26 as of right now. Also, do you think it would be possible for you to move the suggestions forum page over to the SA forum? Finally, I would like for Perfect character to share the same forum (not thread) as Smash Arena, as it will ease the sysop's rage.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 22:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, because under comments you wrote that you wanted to count up the votes, so I asked you. Also, I want the Smash Arena forum to be more like the other forum topics (ex. Watercooler, Brawl Talk, etc), and have the Smash Arena thread, the Suggestions thread, and the Perfect character thread.  Do you see what I mean?   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 22:53, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Here, I'll walk you through it. If you go to the forum page, you'll see the forum subjects (it lists Help desk, Watercooler, Brawl talk, Melee, Talk, Smash Arena).  If you click on one of those (except Smash Arena), you'll get a list of topics.  If you click on one of them, you're in the forum thread, where you discuss whatever the thread is.  Now, I want the Smash Arena forum subject (the one on the forum main page) to not jump to the Smash Arena itself, but act like the other forum subjects, where it takes you to a list of forum threads, and they will be the aforementioned topics.  Do you get it now?   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 23:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

No, the sysops will be much happier if it was all on one forum. It would be much more organized that way.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 22:18, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Seriously?
I think you need to rethink things before doing them. Silverdragon706/FyreNWater - (T • C ) 02:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * What did he do?  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 02:30, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Bad News: My computadora keeps failing when I try to edit the SA logo, so I'm gonna have to abandon it. I'm sorry, but I'm sure that you will find someone who can do it better than I would have.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 04:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

NINJAH! I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 05:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, the Peach vs. Zelda contest is becoming a slaughter; the score is 21-4! I think you should have a mercy rule in this, like if a character is ahead by 15 or so after 3 days, the game ends.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 01:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess so. Oh, and when will you edit the SA forum so that Perfect Character can go there?   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 03:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you do it now please?  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 03:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * WAIT! I DON'T KNOW HOW!!!   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 04:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I've got it a little, but I'm having some issues.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 04:25, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, that's the issue. I keep trying to paste it in, but it won't work.  Any suggestions?   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 04:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * WHEW! That's a relief.  Where was it?   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 04:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

You've been at it for a while. Having any problems?  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 04:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * How would I add my stuff to the forum?  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 04:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Believe me, it would function best there. The sysops would be VERY mad at us if I made perfect character a new forum.   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 04:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll try very hard not to : )  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 04:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

ALright, you can see what I did. If you don't like it, tell me what to change.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 04:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, and I'm adding the forum links to all the pages as well (so they're all connected). I agree, it does look very very nice (obscure reference ftw!)     Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 05:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I deleted the queued fights. Should I not have? Also, perfect character isn't getting a lot of attention. Just lettin' you know.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 06:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey, can you go to the Request for Adminship page and strong support me? Thank you! Perfect character is misunderstood by a lot of people, so I'll ret one poll, and if it doesn't work, I'll be rid of it.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 23:29, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Guilty?
Don't you feel even the slightest bit guilty of stealing this arena idea directly from the Kirby Wiki? We would've allowed you to use the idea if you had just asked, dude. I don't have a problem, but you've earned alot of popularity, and you've even caused my friend to stop talking to me. I love your idea, so I'm granting you late permission as Bueracrat of the Kirby wiki. I guess I should be thankful... Blue Ninjakoopa  Talk to me 16:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL You misunderstood, I wasn't going to make you a Bueracrat, I was granting permission as one. xD Well... it's not so much as permission since you did create it. Well, keep up the good work! :D Blue Ninjakoopa   Talk to me 21:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * C. Hawk makes himself look liek an evil person by ignoring everything, but I think he might have a heart considering he reverted vandalism on my page. But yeah, Kirby Wiki doesn't have it on their main page, but they have it on a project page. We instead have a poll as well as media. Yup, we're keeping that wiki as fun as possible. :D You lost me on the FF wiki ._. Blue Ninjakoopa   Talk to me 21:53, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * And I absolutely love the idea. You see, despite being quite an anti-fun wiki, alot of users come here to edit, so this makes that idea very good. In all summation, you're bringing the fun back to the wiki. :D Blue Ninjakoopa   Talk to me 21:58, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Signiature
As host of the Smash Arena, I believe that you should have a personal signiature:

 SQUALLINOA 08 Talk first, fight later 

And to use it, go to your preferences, paste it into the signiature and tick raw signiature. Then you can sign it with the sign it with four of these (~).

Oh, and as a secret plea, can you delete the Subspace Bomb versus Galleom's Subspace Bomb? THey would just blow up and end the battle, without even deciding the battle.

And where did you get your username? Its very unusual -- Toon Ganondorf CHAT  08:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

While we are on the topic of secret pleas, I don't think Icicle Mountain vs. Mushroomy kingdom is worthy of the queued list. They cant even fight, let alone be at the same place. Thats just like the Eiffel Tower vs. Sydney Opera House.  Pikabro PIKA!  07:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

How come you don't want to use the signiature. It's one of the best I've made, and it's really boring just seeing the plain blue username after a while. It's really not hard to do and you should really get a good signiature. Ask anyone, they'll agree. -- Toon Ganondorf CHAT  08:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, I wish I had a signature like that.  Pikabro PIKA!  08:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Brawling
I think we can, but I'm not sure how.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 01:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, then that would mean RfR, RfA, and RfB are Project pages, so I guess SmashWiki has Project Pages.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 01:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Not at the moment. I'm brawling Cheezperson right now (and Galaxia a few minutes ago). I'll give the links to you tomorrow.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 01:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry man. Just finished with a win over Cheez, and GXD left about 10-20 minutes ago. Monday Night Raw is starting in 2-3 minutes. Maybe some other time. Sorry.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 01:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Warning
I have reason to believe that the accounts CCRedfield 08 and ABDC 08 are sockpuppet accounts of yours used to vote multiple times on your own creation, the Smash Arena. Your own userpage shows that your alias on Resident Evil wiki is, in fact, CCRedfield 08, and you also are the founder of the ABDC wikia. Also, both usernames are very similar to your own and have yet to edit anything but Smash Arena-related pages. If these are sockpuppets, please stop using them immediately for any purpose, as this wiki has a zero-tolerance policy on sockpuppeting. Miles (talk - contribs) 21:04, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Smash arena
Hey Squall, have you noticed in the Archive 2 of the Smash Arena, that Marth and Ike are listed as a suggestion even though they are fighting this week? I would've deleted it, but I didn't want to offend you so I'm sending you this instead. Can you delete the Marth v. Ike suggestion in the Archive? -- Toon Ganondorf CHAT  20:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Smash Arena
Have u ever thought about doing team battles? for example Team 1: Mario and Luigi vs Team 2: Wario and Bowser Masterman   Eat   Turkey!  03:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Haven't decided on that. Maybe in the future. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 03:07, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * mk. Masterman   Eat   Turkey!  03:07, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Archive
Yeah, between Toon Ganondorf, Pikabro and myself, we've almost tripled the amount of suggestions in the Arena. It probably needs archiving soon. -- Gutripper Speak if you are worthy  04:38, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Note that I did like two. Mr Medical Student and Mr Law student have done like twenty apiece.  Pikabro PIKA  CHU!  04:45, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey, did you know that CH protected the Smash Arena suggestions? He says that no ones suggesting, they're voting. -- Gutripper Speak if you are worthy  05:04, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Can you please do something avout it?  Pikabro PIKA  CHU!  05:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I SWEAR I WILL FUCKING KILL THAT FUCKING DOOCHEBAG! I SERIOUSLY WANT HIM '''BANNED! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 05:59, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Squall, you really need to calm down. If you're going to talk like that, you're only going to get yourself banned, which id no good for anyone. -- Gutripper Speak if you are worthy  07:04, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Hm.
I am not a guardian angel that can be called upon whenever needed. If you are having trouble with this Wiki's administration, don't come to me complaining and expect me to fight your battle for you. If the Smash Arena is going badly, handle it yourself. I have no association with this Wiki but for you, because you kept complaining about this place on the FF Wiki. The Smash Arena is your project, you created it, you run it, and now it's time for you to defend it. But I will not be drawn into your struggle when I've no reason to allow myself to do so. Drake Clawfang (talk)


 * Yes, and the day must come when one must stop asking advice from others on how to stand up for themselves, and actually do it. That day for you is now. Congratulations. Drake Clawfang (talk)

C Hawk's talk
You're right about what you said, you're one of the best users here! Im Alex25, King of Randomness!  Say Hi to me!   Random stuff!  09:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Marth v. Ike
Squall, I swear that this fight has gone on way too long. You should be on the next fight by now.

Have you considered changing the fights every few days, rather than each week. You could a have a fight from Sunday to Wednesday, then another from THursday to Saturday. A week is probably too long for a fight, and pretty much everyone who is going to vote has already. Upping it to two fights a week would drastically reduce the number of suggestions and keep teh tempo. And having the fights end and start on the weekend means that no one misses out on voting.

It's an idea. -- Gutripper Speak if you are worthy  21:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Gutripper, Squallinoa was banned earlier today.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 21:27, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, I'm gonna change the fight when I'm NOT banned. I just don't understand why Clarinet Hawk won't trust me. I'm like Obama, and he's like McCain. I want change, and he's gonna go with Bush's plan. I mean seriously, do you guys want change?? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 21:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * What?  O,  Mighty   Smoreking  21:59, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey squall! Member me? I'm sorry for what happened to you? Hey, can I take charge of SA for you while your gone?? I know how to operate it! CHOP STIKS (talk) 21:44, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh yea I remember you, you're that girl from FFwiki. What a minute how did you know I was banned? Er... neva mind. Hmm.... IDK, can I trust you? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 21:51, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ummm.... HELLO! Does the DNC ring a bell? LOL, sorry Squall. I know how to count the score, change the fight, archive, and lots! You can count on me! Oh yea, I know you were banned because you were talking bout this place and I've stopped by here and found you! And found out you were banned. Anyways THANKS! Don't worry Squall, everything will be ok! You just have 2 learn how to control your anger and learn how to respect others. CHOP STIKS (talk) 21:55, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * HEY! What do you mean.... oh, neva mind. Ok, I'll let you take charge. Talk to Cheezperson, he will assist you if you need it. The next fight is Captain Falcon vs Snake. Go to my sandbox and take the CF vs S fight and post it in the Smash Arena page. I archive the page when there are 4 fights already done. Go to Template:Smash Arena to change the name of the fight, and Template:SA Box as well. Got it?! Oh and one more thing, BE CAREFUL! Don't get into any trouble! You know what happened to me, don't end up like me ok. Take care! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 22:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks Squall. You can count on me!!! CHOP STIKS (talk) 22:01, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Being a playa hata
Kid, you aren't fooling anyone. As 'CHOP STIKS' has no contributions on FFWiki, how could you possibly know each other therefrom? Lolz. Try again, n00blet. Semicolon (talk) 22:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * As Theodore Long used to say (until he switched to what Semicolon had placed as title of this section): "Don't be drinkin' that Hate-orade".  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 00:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, if that CHOP STIKS person is Squall, then ban. He's disgracing my proud Chinese race. Plus, we can see this clear through, the way Squall and CHOP STIKS talk is the exact SAME!!  Fried  beef  1    Screech   00:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * and, to back my original proposal, look at the last two posts of the last section. One minute apart.  Clearly Squall acting like himself, but failing.
 * Well, Squall has no choice. Banned users can only edit their talk page (like me earlier today, although that was an accident). Anyway, I'm pretty sure C. Hawk lengthened Squall's ban from 2 weeks to 3 weeks when he found out that CHOP STIKS was a sockpuppet.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 00:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * THIS IS COMPLETELY FUCKING CHILDISH! Banning me won't do any good! Sure it's not my page, but I've created it, and I have to defend it! I wish Drake can help me now! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 01:02, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Dude, you made a sockpuppet. That's blockworthy.   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 01:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You are defending your page, and I respect that, but creating a sockpuppet is clearly against policy, and so it's a ban. Regardless of what, you need to get banned, Squallinoa.  Fried  beef  1    Screech   01:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * He's been "drinkin' Hate-orade". Drake would probably agree with C. Hawk. C. Hawk was able to tolerate the existence of Smash Arena, but he couldn't/can't tolerate how childish/immature you are acting right now.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 01:07, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

WELL MAYBE HE SHOULD BACK OFF! C. Hawk has no right to treat me or us that way! What has HE done for us??? Giving us crappy rules and what nots. If you guys don't like the way he's running things, why don't you guys defend yourselves? 01:10, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Who the heck said we hated how he ran things? He was recently promoted to Bureaucrat, and you say we hate how he runs things on SmashWiki? Dude, thanks to you, I was accidentily BANNED earlier today (something wrong with the autoblock). He has every right. You cussed at him, claimed ownership of pages (the only pages you own are your User and talk pages, but then again, you can only edit your talk), and acted like a downright 10-year-old child. Don't say he had no right.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 01:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Calm down Sq08 I understand you want to defend your page but you might be over reacting a bit, k? If theres a problem just tell him and he will understand. Im Alex25, King of Randomness!  Say Hi to me!   Random stuff!  01:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * There is nothing. I quit! Smash Arena is over and it's done! Just tell Clarinet Hawk to delete the page and I'm gone! Sorry guys, but there's nothing I can do. He's too powerful for me, so I quit. And to think I can make a change. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 01:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im Alex25, King of Randomness!  Say Hi to me!   Random stuff!  01:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * There is nothing I can do. If we can't make agreements and keep on fighting forever, then I guess I can't stay here. I'm done! For good! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 01:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh. Seriously, you make Randall look like he has good social skills (no offense to RJM). You're not trying to make a change; you're trying to defy one's authority.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 01:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Whaever. Tell Clarinet Hawk to delete Smash Arena and delete my userpage. I'm done! Later guys. It was fun! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 01:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Guys, you're going too hard on him. sure, he sockpuppeted (Bushism) and he dislikes the way things work around here, but that doesn't make him a bad person.  Everyone has a right to their own opinions.  There are rules here for a reason (this is supposed to be an encyclopedia), and when people break the rules, they get punished.  Squall, you know what you did, and it was wrong.  However, the SA brought the community together (in my opinion) to have some fun.  The sysops were OK with that, until the suggestions page got out-of-control.  You should have thanked CH for protecting that page!  Yes, CH does and believes some things that I don't agree with, but he is the most active admin here (for now).  He's probably under a lot of pressure, so please be understanding.  Finally, to everyone, I'd advise NOT to delete the SA page, as Miles has graciously offered to run it.   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 01:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't be a quitter Squall. I'll run Smash Arena if you want, but you'll have to help me. -- Gutripper Speak if you are worthy  01:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Why dont you just give it to someone else then instead of deleting it? Im Alex25, King of Randomness!  Say Hi to me!   Random stuff!  01:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Hm (x 2)
If I understand correctly, this is about C. Hawk (sounds like a Street Fighter fighter :p) blocking the Suggestions page, in turn preventing you from running it. Is that right?

I will admit, on the one hand you are acting childishly. Squallinoa, sockpuppets is something only Shari Lewis can get away with, not you. Secondly, while it is wrong for you to be unable to run the very page you have been charged with, they need to be able to trust you to run that page competently. And from the looks of it, the Suggestions page wasn't going well. Smash Arena is your project, yes, but if you cannot run it properly then it falls to the Administrators to do so in your steed, but I am sure they have better things they'd rather do, so do not let this happen. I would hate to see a repeat of the DNC, where the guy who runs it has failed to fulfill his duties adequately and other users must do so for him.

You need to understand, this is not the Final Fantasy Wiki. Instead of copying the DNC from coding to system, why not create a new system to be used? Obviously the first one doesn't work here. Try to use your break not to find ways around your block, but to re-evaluate your standing here and the purpose of the Smash Arena. As I said, perhaps try taking it in a new, better direction more fitting of the Wiki hosting it, and prove to the administrators you are capable of managing the Arena without letting it grow beyond your control. Take this break as such, and hopefully you can come back with new ideas and new initiatives to improve the Smash Arena and show the Administrators that it is worthy of being here, and you are worthy of being in charge of it. Drake Clawfang (talk)

"The general who advances without coveting fame and retreats without fearing disgrace, whose only thought is to protect his country and do good service for his sovereign, is the jewel of the kingdom." - Sun Tzu


 * Also, I suggest you not stop that crap again. Self-pity and martyrdom don't work in the real work. Drake Clawfang (talk)

Strange, when Cheezperson wrote that statement, it reminded me of Mei Ling giving Snake another one of her Chinese proverbs. Heh. Anyway, didn't Miles say he will run Smash Arena?  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 01:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Did anyone read what I just said? Im Alex25, King of Randomness!  Say Hi to me!   Random stuff!  01:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Which is why I said Miles said he would run it.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 01:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Handover of power
(sigh) This is tough. Alright. I want both Miles, MarioGalaxy, and Cheezperson to take control of the page. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 01:33, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm OK with that, although I don't have much time this week due to exams. Oh, and doesn't both mean two people? There's three of us.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 01:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The 3 of us should split the focuses of our powers. Like, one does archiving, one decides the battles, and one enforces how things are working.  The suggestions page should be protected longer, as there are plenty of battles ready to go.   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 01:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Just a suggestion, but I can help too. I finished my medical exams yesterday, and teh next ones aren't for a few months, so I've got heaps of time. -- Gutripper Speak if you are worthy  01:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Alright! I nominate Cheezperson because he believed in my ideas, and helped me. And I also nominate Miles, since he volunteered. Mario, you will be my watched these two. I will come back to see if everythings ok. Gutripper, you can assist them whenever they are in need. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 01:45, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing Squall. You can count on us!-- Gutripper Speak if you are worthy  01:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you guys! Oh, and I have 2 favors.

Week 5 - Captain Falcon vs Snake (11/15/08 - 11/22/08) Thank you! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 01:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Gutripper, go to Forum:Past Fights and put in this weeks fight and the date it will run. Do it in the same format as the others. Week #: The fight name (date of start - end date) It should be like this
 * 1) Can someone archive my talk page!

I can definitely be the one who updates the fight each week. We should keep the suggestions closed for at least a month, as we've got a few months queued already. Miles (talk - contribs) 03:33, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with the above. Gutripper's handling the archving, Miles will handle the updates, and I'll do my best to keep things nice and orderly.  MG can, well, smile and wave (or help any of us : )   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 03:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

OMG!!
I NEED HELP!!!! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 03:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * What is it?  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 03:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, with what? Masterman   Eat   Turkey!  03:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * With what? Answer the question, man. I just got unblocked, and considering it was twice in one day (I got blocked because the autoblock said you and I have the same IP address), my return won't last long.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 03:33, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * An anonymous user placed his vote in the wrong section, the numbers in snake's vote section is messed up, I need to archive my talk page, and, and,

I NEED TO TALK TO CLARINET HAWK!
 * I need to resolve this fight and try to make an agreement with him. I know he hates me, but I can't let him hate me forever! I just need to talk to him! And I'm trying to answer but you guys keep commenting and it cause so much EDIT CONFLICT!Squallinoa 08 (talk) 03:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I fix'd the number problem, will fix the anonymous problem, and hope that you realize that CH probably won't shorten your block.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 03:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not askin to shorten my block, I just want to talk to him and see why he hates me and what I can do to stop all this sinahnagans! I just want to make an understanding. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 03:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * C. Hawk doesn't hate you. If he did, he'd probably make you one of the "rogue/banned" users in SmashWiki: The Movie. Ah, good times. Too bad KP was one of them. Anyway, he doesn't hate you, and why can't you archive your talk page?  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 03:45, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Since I'm banned, I can't do anything! I can't edit any pages, INCLUDING MY USER PAGE! And I can't create new pages and stuff. So I can't archive my user page at all. Can you do it for me? Squallinoa 08 (talk) 03:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure. I just made my 4th archive today, and it was surprisingly quicker than my other ones.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 03:48, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't edit this page for the next several minutes. I'll be archiving it.  Mario Galaxy  { talk } 03:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC)