User:Four4

Hello! I'm Four4, but you can call me Four, 16, or Joey. I'm a fan of the Smash Bros series, clearly. I first played Melee around 2006, when I was 10 years old. My favourite of the games is Brawl, with SSB4 coming in a close second place :D

'''WARNING: OPINIONS INBOUND. IF YOU ARE PRONE TO STUPIDITY, PLEASE LEAVE IMMEDIATELY.'''

Mr. Game & Watch
My main in Brawl, and probably my main in SSB4. Sakurai loves bringing back the retro characters, and G&W practically defines retro. His moveset is fun and clever, not to mention his 2D model is a great idea. He's fast and strong enough to be a challenge to face, and Flat Zones 1 and 2 are awesome maps.

Wario
In my opinion, this guy is the most fun to play as (besides Mr. G&W). He's kind of slow, but his strength and agility make up for it. His moveset is my favourite in the entire game; it reflects him perfectly as a character. Wario Man is badass, and his recovery works well. He also has awesome taunts.

Kirby
One of the original 12, and a big face of Nintendo history, Kirby shows off how epic he truly is in all 4 Smash Games. Getting 2nd in the invitational tourney proves how well he can be played. He has a fantastic moveset, and a fun Final Smash. Not to mention he brought the Dragoon Parts to the game, which makes Brawl that much more fun to play. His recovery isn't very good, but his extra jumps make up for it.

Toon Link
What's better than Link? Toon Link. With Wind Waker being my favourite LoZ game, I was pumped when he was announced for Brawl and for SSB4. He's faster, stronger, and has better move knockback than regular Link.

Sheik
With a very ninja-esque moveset and incredible speed, Sheik easily became one of my favourites. I never got a hang of Zelda's moveset, so Sheik was a good alternative. I'm very glad she got her own space on the roster in SSB4.

Robin
TBA

Mewtwo
Quite the fan favourite. Not only is he my favourite legendary Pokemon, but he's also my main in Project M. Playing by myself for 20 hours seemed stressful in Melee, but I'm glad I did. Overall, he's the better Lucario with a cool moveset, and his floaty-ness surprisingly works. He's the character I wanted most in SSB4, so I wish he had made the cut, but nope we got Dr. Mario instead. The ultimate Sakurai troll.

Mega Man
TBA

Captain Olimar
Wow, did I love to see Olimar do so well at the invitational tourney. Captain Olimar is fun to play as, once you get used to his style. The Pikmin are awesome, and having the full 6 next to you helps a lot. Not to mention he has my personal favourite Final Smash. Overall a fun character, especially when you realise he's only 2" tall.

Duck Hunt
TBA

Pac-Man
TBA

Captain Falcon
The other of the two Captains in Smash Bros, Captain Falcon is the more masculine He-Man with memes pouring out of his arse. CF is the second fastest character in the series, after Sonic himself. They managed to craft a very fun and mobile moveset for him, considering what they had to work with. The only reason he's this low is how easy it is to miss with his Final Smash and his meh recovery. Otherwise, FALCON... PAWWNCH!!!!

Villager
TBA

Luigi
Outshining his brother since 1983, the cowardly, nervous, young Luigi is ultimately stronger with a diverse moveset, and definitely not just "Green Mario". Luigi has one of my favourite Final Smashes, and unlocking him in Melee was fun and clever. I wish he had a better recovery, or at least one different from Mario's. He was my main in SSB and my back-up main in Melee. All in all, a fun and hard-hitting character to play as.

Pit
I'd never played the Kid Icarus games beforehand, so I had no clue who Pit was when he joined Brawl, and was disappointed at first. However, after giving him a chance, holy hell was he good. VERY strong with a good projectile attack. He has one of the best recoveries in the game (alongside R.O.B.) in my opinion. After winning so much as him, I decided to buy Kid Icarus: Uprising, which is now one of my favourite Nintendo games. Very glad he's back in SSB4.

Wii Fit Trainer
TBA

Pikachu
The star of my favourite gaming franchise. He's VERY fast, and quite strong for such a little guy. His moveset works with his electricity, and his recovery is pretty good too. His only flaw is his Final Smash, only because it's so difficult to control. But fast, strong, agile, and adorable wins him a high enough place.

Palutena
TBA

Meta Knight
The most OP character in the game, by far. One of the best movesets in the game, by far. One of the best recoveries in the game, by far. All in all, as you can tell, a great character. Amazing speed and strength, fairly good knockback, and one of my favourite Kirby characters as well.

Lucas
What else can I say, besides better Ness? His PK attacks are sharper and faster, his Final Smash works a lot better, his recovery works a lot better, and the fact I didn't know him before Brawl made him more fun to learn about. It's unfortunate he might be cut in SSB4, because I know many people mained him and really loved playing as him.

Bowser Jr.
TBA

Ike
I like Ike. He's my favourite newcomer to Brawl. I'm a massive fan of Fire Emblem, and Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn are my favourite games in the series. He's one of the strongest characters of the Smash games, and he's different enough from Marth to make him interesting as his own character. His Final Smash is deadly, if it hits. The only reason he's so low is because of his terrible recovery. His jumping isn't the best, and his recovery, if done wrong, is a death sentence.

Samus
The original Samus. The one that isn't in a catsuit with glorified tits. Ultimately, I prefer her moveset, and her recovery is pretty good. Her speed and agility are decent enough, and her strength is high enough to become a threat.

Zero Suit Samus
I was a tad surprised when she won the invitational tourney. Very glad she has her own spot on the roster now, and she isn't just a drop from Samus's Final Smash anymore. Her moveset is pretty straightforward and her agility is great. She's not very strong though, and like Samus, her recovery is decent. But because of the things I like more about regular suited Samus, ZSS is lower.

Zelda
Zelda on her own isn't that bad. Her moves are pretty good, she has a lot of strength, and she's fairly fast. Her agility isn't the best, and her Final Smash is easily avoidable. Her recovery is also hard to manipulate, and depending on your position, can miss easily. Hence why I think Sheik is ultimately better. Zelda isn't terrible, but she's no where near the best. Meh.

Diddy Kong
Another side character who's better than the titular character? Blasphemy! But really, even though he's one of the weaker characters, his moveset, speed, and agility make up for it. His recovery is okayish, and his Final Smash is alright I suppose. I never really play as him, so I'm not one to talk, but these are just my thoughts, so again, meh.

Squirtle
My personal favourite of the Trainer's Pokemon arsenal. His moveset stays true to his water typing, and he's a cute character. His recovery works well, his speed is fairly good, and he has decent enough strength.

Little Mac
TBA

Marth
Like I said with Ike, I'm a big Fire Emblem fan, so I love playing both Ike and Marth. Their strength and speed is similar, but Marth also has a bad recovery, and his Final Smash is one of the worst in the game. A Final Smash that can kill you if avoided isn't worth the risk. His moves are pretty standard, but compared to swordsmen like Ike and Toon Link, he's nothing special.

Falco Lombardi
Remember Fox? Neither do I, now that this guy is running the show. Although he's considered a clone, his Reflector move is better, and he's just more fun to play as. Who doesn't want to beat people up as a blue falcon? (Geddit? Captain Falcon joke )

R.O.B
He was quite the wild card in Brawl. He has a very unique moveset and is fun to play as. I also loved him in the Subspace Emissary. He's strong enough to put up a fight. Also, I'd safely say that he has the best jumping in Brawl. His speed is seriously sub-par though, making him this low on my list. He is my brother's main though, so I'm sure he's glad he'll be back in SSB4 :P

Greninja
TBA

Donkey Kong
One of the strongest in terms of brute force, if not THE strongest. His down-b wrecks everything, but his recovery is awful. His Final Smash is easily avoidable, and his speed really nerfs his ability to do well. If played right, he can be a threat, but otherwise he's slow, and his jumping/agility can't get him to safety.

Shulk
TBA

Wolf O'Donnell
The most unique of the Star Fox characters. His moveset is decent enough, and he's definitely not a Fox clone. His agility and speed aren't good at all, and despite his strength, his weight makes him fairly easy to KO. And the Landmaster. Dear lord, why did they have to give him the Landmaster?

Dr. Mario
...He's the same as Mario. Except he shoots pills instead of fireballs. Yep. Only higher than Mario because of his slight strength boost. SSB4 did him no justice, in fact, it made him worse. His Final Smash is copy+paste from Mario's, except with pills instead of fire. Wow. Such creativity. The only good part is the Mario Tornado, which they could've given back to regular Mario and added a better potential Mario rep like Geno or Daisy.

Mario
For the biggest face of video games, he's not that good. His Final Smash is easily avoidable. His recovery, if missed, will make him plummet to hell. His moves do a low amount of damage, and he's not very fast. His agility is meh at best. Luigi is far better in 64, Melee, and Brawl.

Charizard
I was pretty upset that he got his own spot in SSB4. Not because I don't like him, but because it meant Squirtle was cut. In Brawl, he was okay. His recovery worked, and his temporary flight helped out. He was one of the strongest characters in-game. But his moveset was far too basic for a Pokemon with so many abilities, and he was pretty slow.

Sonic
I was ecstatic when he was announced for Brawl. And when Mega Man and Pac-Man were confirmed for SSB4, I knew I would have to pit Sonic against the 2 newcomers, along with Mario. However, I won't be playing as Sonic in that match. He has the best speed in the game, obviously. However, he's weak and hard to handle. Super Sonic is like Pikachu's Final Smash, except with a smaller radius. His moveset isn't that good, as he has mostly short-range attacks. His long-range attacks are easy to avoid as well.

Roy
My least favourite of the Fire Emblem characters in Smash. He was slower than both Marth and Ike, and his agility was poor. It seems like his moveset is the same as every other swordfighter in Smash. I wasn't too upset when he was cut, unlike everyone else.

Fox McCloud
Ironically, the first Star Fox character in Smash and the titular character of his series is the worst of the 3. He's nearly the same as Falco, except his Reflector isn't as good, and his moves aren't that unique to his games. Wolf and Falco both have something to stand out with, Fox is just...there.

Lucario
He isn't a clone of Mewtwo. Mewtwo was better, in every aspect. Lucario's attacks are weak and slow, his agility is meh at best, and his main projectile takes too long to load to maximum power. While the "closer he is to death, the stronger he becomes" concept is okay, it's poorly executed. Against stronger characters, KO'ing him is easy before he gets to his highest strength.

Link
A fan favourite. Don't ask me why, I haven't a clue. He's a slower, weaker, less agile Toon Link. That's really all there is to it.

Ice Climbers
They were a unique idea and fun to play as. However, the key word is "they". Considering you're only controlling one of them, with the other following, you can't really prevent the NPC climber from getting KO'd. When they do, which they probably will, the remaining climber is seriously nerfed. Their recovery goes away, making him/her terrible off-field. Their strength is also cut. If you have both Popo and Nana, they can be good, but only having one ruins your chances. Not to mention, if the main climber is KO'd, then it's over for both. They were one of my mains in Melee though, so don't ask me about logic any time soon.

Yoshi
He's weak and kinda slow. His agility is meh at best. His moves don't really do too much, and his recovery is terrible. His jump is the only good thing, but compared to the other bad things, he's one of the worst characters in Smash.

Bowser
Mario's villain is a slow and boring character. He's not agile in the slightest, and his recovery is awful. His attacks are quite basic, and he's just overall bad. His Final Smash is his one saving grace, but again, we've already seen it in Wario Man and somewhat Super Sonic. Besides, they literally had to make up Giga Bowser. He had MANY different, better options for a Final Smash.

Young Link
The most useless Link form. Link was the standard, Toon Link was the improvement, and Young Link was...nothing. He was a weaker Link. He's ever so slightly faster, which in Melee, didn't make any difference.

Ivysaur
The worst the Trainer has to offer. His attacks are weak, his agility and recovery sucks, and his speed is sub-par. Of course, his Final Smash is shared with Squirtle and Charizard, so that's the only good thing about Ivysaur.

Ness
Oh look, it's crappy Lucas. Ness is slower. Ness is slightly weaker. His Final Smash is worse. His recovery works slower and is harder to control. This is the biggest reason I'm upset Lucas was cut; we're stuck with his worse version, and all the people who mained Lucas will either have to move on or try and deal with a version that's worse in every way possible.

Snake
Another of Brawl's wild cards. This guy shouldn't have EVER been in, coming from an M rated game and packed with an arsenal of real-life weapons like land mines, grenades, and guns. He was slow, awkward to use, and his jumping seemed weird. I'm more than happy he was cut. It leaves room for actual Nintendo characters. His only good thing was his recovery, which we've seen better in Pit and R.O.B. anyway.

Rosalina & Luma
TBA

Princess Peach
Weak. Slow. Not agile. Those are the big three problems with the Mario series' tritagonist. Her moves are bad, her Final Smash is the worst in the game, and she's overall boring to play as compared to the cooler characters like Mega Man, Little Mac, and even her LoZ counterpart, Zelda.

Dark Pit
TBA

Lucina
TBA

King Dedede
Oh dear God, this guy. He's horribly slow and awkward to use, with near his entire moveset based around his hammer. His one other move, throwing Waddle Dees, is pointless; they just run off the stage. His recovery is the worst in the entire series (besides Ike) and his Final Smash is utterly pointless. He's strong enough to be somewhat okay, but this is null due to how slow he is. A fast, hard-hitter like Pikachu, G&W, or even Fox can beat him easily.

Jigglypuff
And then there's this. Why was this a thing? Jigglypuff should've been cut after the original 64 game. She's one of the weakest characters, and her recovery is absolute bollocks. Her sleeping move is completely useless, her rest move is completely useless, and her Final Smash is completely useless. Her speed and agility are copied from Kirby, so playing Kirby makes MUCH more sense due to his extra strength and y'know, good parts. Jigglypuff has no saving factors. I hope they incorporate her new fairy typing into SSB4, or else she'll become my least favourite of all time. But for now, there's one more.

Ganondorf
Captain Falcon is the 2nd fastest character in the series. Ganondorf, his exact clone, is one of the slowest. Ganondorf's entire moveset is copy+paste from Captain Falcon's, except the flames are purple instead of red. His agility and speed were nerfed from Captain Falcon, making him a terrible clone and a terrible character. His Final Smash is nothing special, and can be avoided in any map with platforms, or a good jumper like the Kirby characters or Sheik. Such a shame, for the main villain of one of the biggest gaming series of all time.

Pichu
Jesus Christ on a bike, I couldn't be happier this waste of life was cut. He's a weak Pikachu that's easy as all hell to KO. He has no use. Pikachu is just as fast, just as agile, and much stronger. Pichu was a terrible space filler, and literally, an EXACT COPY. NOTHING WAS DIFFERENT. I don't know what was running through Sakurai's mind when he added Pichu. I mean, Pichu is literally, in the game he's from, the WORSE VERSION OF PIKACHU. THE VERSION WE'RE MEANT TO GET RID OF TO GET PIKACHU. That's why we EVOLVE him in Pokemon. Pichu has no relevance to the Pokemon franchise anymore. Hell, even Solid Snake means more in Nintendo history than Pichu does. And not to mention this thing is so hard to unlock. Fighting 5 wire frames with Pokeballs being thrown at you every couple seconds? Just for this? No, Sakurai, I'll take my Pikachu and Mewtwo anyday. The worst part is, you need Pichu to unlock G&W, my favourite character. So I have to endure hell just to get a character I never use. Thnx m8. Pichu being cut is the best decision in Smash history. That's my list. Thanks for reading :D

Mach Rider
I played this game about 10 years ago at a garage sale, when the woman running it let me try it out on her old NES. This was a game, if not THE game, that introduced me to Nintendo and got me hooked on their franchises. This guy's moveset could revolve around his motorcycle and machine guns easily. I'm upset that he wasn't included in SSB4, he would've been perfect. But I suppose he may be in SSB5.

Bomberman
The face of my 2nd favourite game series of all time deserves a spot in SSB! His moveset potential is through the roof, and all his alt. colour/alt. costume palettes are practically made for him already. He's been on multiple Nintendo systems in the past, and had a planned 3DS game (sucks that it was cancelled :/). Konami had the opportunity to include one of their characters in Brawl, and instead they chose Snake. If that chance ever comes around again, Bomberman should be a shoe-in.

Cooking Mama
I'm not joking. She's quite the oddball pick, but I believe that she has a shot. Her moveset would revolve around various forms of food, and she could have a projectile similar to Mr. G&W's neutral special. Her Final Smash could be her going into her rage mode and doing something similar to Kirby's in SSBB. And for some reason, she just...fits. Wii Fit Trainer proves that no one is safe from entering the game, and Cooking Mama fits the criteria with flying colours.

Simon Belmont
Holy retro icons, Batman! Castlevania was the top dog of gaming back in the day. The series' popularity was insane, and many kids grew up with the whip-slinging, vampire-slaying hero known as Simon Belmont. His moveset could be based around medium to long range attacks with his whip, and his Final Smash could involve Dracula/Alucard. Sakurai said himself, he loves reviving retro series. Castlevania was a huge hit, and the Angry Video Game Nerd introduced the game to a lot of the current generation. He's practically a no-brainer by this point.

Waluigi
Why wasn't he playable in Brawl? He's been in 40+ games since his premiere; that's 5x more than most of the roster can say. He's an absolute fan favourite and a staple in the Mario series cast. Mario, Luigi, and Wario have all been confirmed playable, yet this necessity has been an Assist Trophy 2 games in a row. For shame, Sakurai. His moveset could be made of the Mario Sports/Mario Party games, and his Final Smash could be from Mario Strikers. With a tennis racket, golf club, and baseball bat at his arsenal, no one could stop it. It's Waluigi's Time.

Sora
Kingdom Hearts was another series that formed my childhood. This game was a giant trip of feels, from laughter and happiness to depression and vengeance in mere moments. Sora, as one of my favourite video game characters of all time, should belong in Smash Bros. He was in 2 games for the DS, and his moveset could revolve around the Keyblade. His Final Smash could be similar to Shulk's and he could summon Donald and Goofy/Riku and Kairi to finish off the opponent. However, I imagine Sora and Kingdom Hearts as a whole has copyrights up its ass, so I doubt Nintendo will go so far just for one character.

Maxwell
Scribblenauts is amazing. It's literally every child's dream come to life in a game. Whatever you can imagine comes to life in front of you for you to use and interact with. Maxwell's moveset could work phenomenally with this feature. He and his games have been on Nintendo consoles almost exclusively, but with 5th Cell in copyright trouble themselves, I doubt they can help program a character into Smash.

Ditto
Say what you will, but I think Ditto could be an excellent candidate for Smash. He would be a clone of every single character. He would transform into the opponent as soon as the match starts with slightly altered stats, and of course, the Ditto face plastered on instead. He could be the joke character everyone would love to play as, instead of characters like Jigglypuff, R.O.B. and Wii Fit Trainer. I personally prefer Ditto to Zoroark, simply for the comedy it would bring to Smash. But unfortunately, Zoroark seems more likely, and at that, other Pokemon do as well.

Sir Kibble
Remember him? He's the knight guy from the Kirby series. No, not him. This guy. He was always my favourite companion to bring around in Kirby games, and his helmet always fascinated me. His moveset could have different head bashes and blade throwing, plus he could bring a more long range attack base than the existing Kirby characters have. Ultimately though, Bandanna Dee is FAR more likely, so I won't even bother trying with Kibble.

Commander Video
The main character of the Bit.Trip Runner games, Commander Video just makes sense in Smash. Too bad he's largely third party. His moveset would revolve around kicking and his Mega, Super, and Ultra power bonuses. His Final Smash could be him gaining his Extra power and going into a mode similar to Wario Man. He recently got a sequel, and his entire game series was released for the Wii U. But, as I said, he's still a largely third party character, and from an indie company at that. With other third parties to use, Commander Video's chances seem slim.

Goku
It should be a rule, characters who originated from video games are the only ones that can be in Smash. Goku was an anime for years before his first game on the NES, and NO ONE knows him from the games, only the anime and the manga. Including him would be pointless compared to the actual Nintendo/better third party characters wanted in the roster.

Leon Kennedy/Nemesis
Resident Evil is a great series. Not particularly my cup of coffee, but I recognise its appeal to others. That being said, neither the protagonist or antagonist should be in Smash. It's far too dark for the series, and it's probably not a good thing when I hear my friends say they want to beat the crap out of Bowser with Nemesis and tear apart Marth with Leon. All in all, I think there's better characters to use in the roster.

Birdo
As I said above, Yoshi is one of my least favourite characters in the Smash series. Birdo seems to be a fan favourite Mario pick (almost rivaling Waluigi, which sucks). She would literally be an exact Yoshi clone. She has nothing to set her apart besides design. I'd rather see Toad in over her. Waluigi and Geno are the best possible Mario reps. Birdo is just not good enough to make the roster.

Tom Nook
Another fan favourite choice, and one with people who thought he'd actually fight alongside Villager in SSB4. And if you thought Wii Fit Trainer or Pac-Man wouldn't have a good moveset, then this guy would take it to a whole new level. He isn't enough like Villager to be a clone, yet he doesn't have many characteristics to make a moveset from. I could imagine him doing something with money, I suppose, but that would be stupid. Animal Crossing only needs one rep in the game, and Villager has taken the spot on the roster.

Alph/Charlie/Brittany
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE that Alph is half of Olimar's palette swaps. But these 3 don't deserve spots on their own. Olimar has a very unique playstyle that not a lot of people like or get used to. And having a clone of Olimar wouldn't go down very well. Alph, Charlie, and Brittany as skins/costumes = good. Alph, Charlie, and Brittany as their own character = ew. Pikmin is another series that excels with only one character on the roster.

My 3 Mains from All the Games
SSB Luigi Pikachu Captain Falcon

Honorable Mentions Ness Samus

Super Smash Bros. Melee Luigi Dr. Mario Ice Climbers

Honorable Mentions Marth Falco

Super Smash Bros. Brawl Mr. Game & Watch Wario Kirby

Honorable Mentions Toon Link Sheik

Project M Mewtwo Mario Pikmin & Olimar

Honorable Mentions Diddy Kong Wario

Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U Mr. Game & Watch Mii Gunner Duck Hunt

Honorable Mentions Pac-Man Roy Koopa