User talk:SSBC

Tier lists
I noticed from your post on BlueNinjakoopa's talk page that you don't seem to believe in tiers. So please, direct any and all comments, questions, arguments about tier lists to this page. Semicolon (talk) 07:34, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Contributions...
Do you have any plans to contribute actual content to this wiki? Right now, all you have done is basically stirred up delicate issues without listening to the other people's arguments (which is the polite way of saying trolled) and edited one article. And that edit at best constitutes violating NPOV and could easily be seen as inserting false information. I don't like to be the guy saying that you have to edit in a particular way, but if you want us to be tolerant of your arguing the tier list, I would suggest making some actual content edits. Right now, you are contributing nothing positive and only stirring up the pot. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 03:42, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

SIGN
Please take a look at it. It's obvious that simply telling you to sign your comments with four tildes isn't enough; maybe the whole policy page should convince you more.  BNK [ E 00:26, March 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Clarinet Hawk won't allow my signature. And please don't sound indignant, it's borderline hilarious.
 * If your sig isn't allowed, you must change it; no excuses. For example, make it, then on each wiki you edit, fill in the User:SSBC/sig page with what you want the sig to be on that wiki. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]]  eXemplary Logic  The Stats Guy  The Table Designer  20:23, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, but now I'll have to type up an article that will probably be removed in a heartbeat, eh? Heat-Seeking Missile (talk) 20:04, March 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Furthermore, since you clearly seem to know how to sign, refuse to do it yourself and make yourself generally a pain in the ass for everyone else, start signing your comments or I'll have to block you. Thanks.  Shadowcrest  20:42, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, please, no, not a block. Heat-Seeking Missile (talk) 20:04, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I came to warn you about the very same thing. Shadowcrest did it more concisely, accurately, and politely than I would have, but I issued the same warning to Zeldasmash for less and you haven't earned yourself any slack by contributing anything valuable to this wiki. Please, just add for tildes after your posts. That's all you have to do. It's the top left button on your keyboard. Just hold shift, and punch it 4 times. Semicolon (talk) 02:35, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

What, as if I didn't how to do ~ four times? And I don't remember you telling me to start adding tildes. You seem to have quite a bit of a higher manner than Shadowcrest, I advise against saying you're worse at this stuff than him. I have hardly anything to promote to this Wiki, as all I want is to promote more respect towards Ganondorf or make new possible Ganondorf mains, which will only result in me getting oppressed by the entire site. And I don't see why a signature is so important, but I'm tired of fighting it, so here we go, a signature. Heat-Seeking Missile (talk) 20:04, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, as if you didn't know how to do ~ four times, because I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't just trying to piss on our rules and ignore the kind warnings from our actual contributors. I didn't think I needed to tell you to add four tildes because that's signing your comments, i.e we have a very simple equivalence here. Adding 4 tildes=signing your comments, ergo, when I tell you to sign your comments, you add four tildes. Nice how that works out, eh? And as has been said concisely by Toomai, if you're just here to campaign for a crappy character, take it elsewhere because you're in the wrong place. And remember, when you bitch about Smashwiki to your friends, we didn't ban you because you play Ganondorf. We banned you because you didn't play by the rules. It's not oppression, it's justice, per our policies. We gave you ample warning, and you gave us nothing in return, now you get a week to rethink your strategy. Semicolon (talk) 22:46, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * If that's what you want (connect with Ganondorf mains), go to SmashBoards. They have entire sub-forums for each character, and no one there will give a crap who you pick to be your main. No one here gives a crap either, but at least on SmashBoards's character sub-forums you don't have to pay attention to the opinions of everyone. (And your sig is still illegal - rules are rules, you've read them, and some admins would agree you deserve a minor block just for being snarky.) Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] eXemplary Logic  The Stats Guy  The Table Designer  20:22, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Watch- I'll find out that my next signature is unpermitted as well. Even if you are one of the heads of the site, I don't see why I have to treat myself as if I'm your inferior, helplessly obedient little dog. I saw someone getting flamed and trolled plentifully for saying that a Ganondorf can beat a Meta Knight on this site. I've seen stuff like that everywhere, actually. It's happening to me right now on GameFAQs. Why should I think the Smashboards will have people who respect the opinions of Ganondorf mains? And thank you for that minor little block, you're going kind of far about this, aren't you? SSBC 20:43, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Protip: There is a little "more" button in the top right corner of every page, as long as you're signed in. Click it, find "preferences".  You should be able to find your current signature.  Put in a link to your user page, and then one to your talk page.  You can also put in links to your contributions and edit count, if you wish.  Really, this is simple Wikia stuff, man.  Also, this is an encyclopedia of Smash, so we are trying to be as objective as possible about Ganondorf and every other character.  The truth is, professional play-wise, Ganondorf DOES suck.  He is slow.  Denying that is lying.  He is EXTREMELY slow.  Against fast characters like Meta Knight, he stands no chance.  He is very big.  He has almost no ways to combat projectiles other than dodging and shielding.  He is heavy, and thus chaingrabbed very easily.  He has a predictable recovery, and is generally bad at recovering in general.  I'm sure there are plenty of people at Smashboards who are trying to find ways to get past these glaring flaws and make an awesome character.  You wanna help?  Go to Smashboards.  This is an encyclopedia of facts, and of everything known about Smash and the tourney scene so far.  Understood? L33t   Silvie  I see wat u did thar... |undefined 23:42, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh no, don't get me wrong, I edited my signature. I mean, for some people, I guess it wouldn't seem plain as day that I changed it from the "Rule world" to "Heat-Seeking Missile" to "SSBC" to some people, but you seem to know your stuff. If you're trying to be as objective as possible, then it'd be logical to put Meta Knight in a very objective position on the tier, not mindlessly slapped on #1. Ganondorf "sucking" is based on the player making bad use of him. Him being good is based on good use. It's simple to understand. His slowness gets less noticeable as you use him longer. Meta Knight may not be able to run circles around Ganondorf; Meta Knight is floaty and weak, whereas Ganondorf is a general tank. There are several other big targets in this game; what, and they don't matter when it comes to avoiding projectiles? He's not even the biggest target, anyway. Snake is heavy, and can be thus chaingrabbed just as easily, but I guess that wouldn't matter either, right? There are actually many recovery opportunities; I look up videos of him and find some very clever and unpredictable recoveries. I went on Smash Boards, posted a topic, and it's just been ignored. Also, "glaring flaws" is an opinion, and not real fact.
 * Are. you. serious. There's no accurate way to express this...capitalization won't do it, that's too extreme. Underlining is always strange and ambiguous, and bold is cliche. Italics I've already used too much. So I'm just going to say it. Sign your comments. Sign your comments. Sign your comments. Got it? Semicolon (talk) 01:32, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Um, well, cool story bro, but unless you're blind, in plain sight, you'll see a signature, so... yeah. SSBC (talk) 22:28, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Your block
I've decided to simplify matters and block you for trolling and/or disruption. You can't really argue this, as you've clearly demonstrated that you understand policies, you just choose to ignore them. I don't like your tone, I don't like your attitude, and I don't like your contributions. We've been very clear as to what is tolerated and what isn't on this wiki. If your only goal is to "promote more respect towards Ganondorf or make new possible Ganondorf mains," you're not actually contributing to an encyclopedia as we report on what is, not what you think should be. You want to promote Ganon mains, go win some tourneys with him. Win a few big time tourneys and watch how much more respect you get here and on SmashBoards/AiB/GameFAQs. But right now, all you are is a disruptive troll. So you get to take a week off, think about what you've done, and then try harder next week. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 22:27, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Your way of "keeping order" or whatever you think it is around here just doesn't make me feel like being your mindless little drone. I like to do these things my way. And saying winning a major tourney is the only way is quite an exaggeration; I could find a way to promote respect without tournament success. SSBC (talk) 01:04, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're perfectly right when it comes to promoting respect without tournament success - but let's face it, tournaments and the tier list are results-driven. I could go around saying that the Edmonton Oilers are a good team because yadda yadda yadda, and maybe there's some truth to it, but that doesn't change the fact they're at the bottom of the league. The fans will always stick around because they know things will eventually get better, and the team itself is trying like the dickens to improve, but as it stands currently, they suck - and when it comes down to it, that's what matters. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] eXemplary Logic  The Stats Guy  The Table Designer  01:20, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

My theory is that many people just don't know how to use Ganondorf correctly, or just use him once. He may seem terrible at first- that was a true story for me- but over time, his flaws seemed like total afterthoughts. And now, Meta Knight seems like a total afterthought to me. And if I'm going to do something for this site, please let me know of a flaw I could fix. SSBC (talk) 01:25, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * No dude, you can't promote him without tournament success, for the very basic fact that losing games isn't nearly as popular or decisive as winning games. But please, I'd be glad to discuss your ideas about how to minimize his flaws, just not on your talk page. You are invited to make a forum, properly written with capitalization and accurate spelling, and with it signed, and we can talk about it there, but talk page is not the place. Semicolon (talk) 01:28, March 25, 2010 (UTC)