Board Thread:Super Smash Bros. Discussion/@comment-5869183-20140913181328/@comment-24503190-20141014005621

OctaviaMelody1995 wrote: Hylianhobbit wrote: OctaviaMelody1995 wrote: I don't get why Ganondorf is last. Sure he is slow, but if you use his smash, it speeds him up and it gets him close enough to use his melee attacks and smash attacks. Also ushing his smash attacks will just knock his opponent out of theirs.

Ganondorf is not only stupidly slow, but also has the shortest grab range and a terrible recovery move.

Again his specials actually help him get in range, plus I never really get to many chances to use his recovery due to his armor making really difficult to launch him a far distance. The only problem for me is his final smash. Okay sometimes I can time it right, but a lot of times when I do, the opponent does escape. Really are the Ice Climbers worth being number 2? Okay I use them better than Ness and Olimar (which in comparison when a rare occasion use Ganondorf's recovery is better and easier to control than Olimar's or Ness's) they should be lower, but yet ahaead of Meta Knight. Meta Knight final smash is easy to avoid and same with his special. His range might be as bad as Ganondorf's, but that is due to his size.

Final Smashes don't factor into the tier list because they aren't used in tournaments.