User talk:Sannse


 * You may want to rmove dr. Pain's rights too. He is abusing them. Jello Rabbit (talk) 19:16, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Well well well
Ok Sannse. It's obvious that the Wikia Staff wrote this entire Wiki. They wrote this entire Wiki, including the Master Hand glitch page I didn't spend hours writing and testing the glitch for it. They also patrolled the Wiki for hours a day, reverting faulty edits, correcting spelling and grammar errors, and getting rid of vandalism, something I had no part in. That thing at the top of the page that says you have "12" edits must be awfully inaccurate, as you helped write our key articles; they obviously weren't written by Toomai or Omega Tyrant. Since the Wikia staff wrote this entire Wiki, and listened to the community's feedback (For example, when the New Wikia Look was announced, the community hated it, so the Wikia Staff abandoned it and stuck with Monaco to please the community. They also let us set the default skin to Monobook. How generous of them.), the Wiki must be theirs and they should be able to do what they want with it. A bunch of users who weren't with the Wiki a long time moved the Wiki, and not the people who spent their time and effort writing it. Wikia is losing Wikis and users, so obviously Wikia is doing a great job as a Wiki farm. Last but not least, those who work at Wiki are not complete imbeciles because they care about their Wikis' communities and not about the money they get from their annoying, virus-infested advertisements. ط ب ي ب ك  ا ل أ ل م  ت س ع ة  و ت <font color=#00CCAA>س <font color=#00BBAA>ع <font color=#00AAAA>و <font color=#0099AA>ن  {PIRATE-NET} 21:28, June 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * You and 5819 other logged in users (and many anon users) wrote this wiki, yes. Then you and a couple of others vandalized it.  The first doesn't change the second.  You have the right to fork, you don't have the right to vandalize the wiki you have chosen to leave.  -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  21:52, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * We should have the right. The Wiki left. The only reason this Wiki stands is because a certain group of selfish people refuse to remove it, as they would lose money if they did. Only a complete imbecile would claim that this Wiki should remain standing when the community who loved and gave care to it moved it when the ignorant, idiotic Wikia Staff decided to stop caring about their users. Do you write Wikis? I don't think so, tbh, what gives you the right to dictate what we do? <font color=#00FF00>ط <font color=#00FF09>ب <font color=#00FF12>ي <font color=#00FF1B>ب <font color=#00FF24>ك <font color=#00FF2D> ا <font color=#00FF37>ل <font color=#00FF42>أ <font color=#00FF5C>ل <font color=#00FF66>م <font color=#00FF77> ت <font color=#00FF88>س <font color=#00FF99>ع <font color=#00FFAA>ة <font color=#00EEAA> و <font color=#00DDAA>ت <font color=#00CCAA>س <font color=#00BBAA>ع <font color=#00AAAA>و <font color=#0099AA>ن  {PIRATE-NET} [[file:DoctorPain99.png|19px]] 22:21, June 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * When you use this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. These include licensing the content under a free license (which allows you to fork, and allows us to continue to use the content after that) and not damaging wikis with vandalism.
 * I've been involved in wikis since 2002 (including more than 16800 edits on Wikipedia before I moved to Wikia) but that's really not the point. The point is that whether you decide to fork or not, the wiki remains for anyone who wants to use it.  Did you know that the Spanish Wikipedia forked in early 2002?  Should that mean that there is no Spanish Wikipedia now?  That's not what happened.  Instead, the wiki remained in place and a new community grew - and the Spanish Wikipedia is now healthy and active again.  This wiki should have the same chance to revive - without petty vandalism or other damage from those who have left. -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  23:19, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * If the Wiki has a right to fork, it should also have a right to move, Sannse. The SmashWiki is now located here, and this place should not even exist. Maybe you wouldn't have Wikis forking or moving if you listened to the community and their opinions every once in a while? Obviously, you are too stupid to realize that what you are doing is disrespectful to all of the people who's comments you ignored when you changed the skin choices without consensus. We would not have this problem right now if you knew how Wikis and communities worked. <font color=#00FF00>ط <font color=#00FF09>ب <font color=#00FF12>ي <font color=#00FF1B>ب <font color=#00FF24>ك <font color=#00FF2D> ا <font color=#00FF37>ل <font color=#00FF42>أ <font color=#00FF5C>ل <font color=#00FF66>م <font color=#00FF77> ت <font color=#00FF88>س <font color=#00FF99>ع <font color=#00FFAA>ة <font color=#00EEAA> و <font color=#00DDAA>ت <font color=#00CCAA>س <font color=#00BBAA>ع <font color=#00AAAA>و <font color=#0099AA>ن  {PIRATE-NET} 23:34, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * The community, and the individual users, have the right to move. What they don't have is the right to tear up the wiki behind them.  All I ask is that you move on peacefully and allow this wiki to recover (or not) on it's own.  (I'm going to continue to ignore the insults, and am not going to go back over old arguments about the skin)  -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  18:19, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * It seems you are too stupid or too arrogant to accept that you are wrong. You can't even acknowledge our community decisions and rules. Good day, and good riddance. <font color=#00FF00>ط <font color=#00FF09>ب <font color=#00FF12>ي <font color=#00FF1B>ب <font color=#00FF24>ك <font color=#00FF2D> ا <font color=#00FF37>ل <font color=#00FF42>أ <font color=#00FF5C>ل <font color=#00FF66>م <font color=#00FF77> ت <font color=#00FF88>س <font color=#00FF99>ع <font color=#00FFAA>ة <font color=#00EEAA> و <font color=#00DDAA>ت <font color=#00CCAA>س <font color=#00BBAA>ع <font color=#00AAAA>و <font color=#0099AA>ن  {PIRATE-NET} [[file:DoctorPain99.png|19px]] 22:12, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

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 * Was on my to-do list on Wikia :D. Jello Rabbit (talk) 21:57, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Are you the right one to ask?
I'm trying to help fix this spam, but doing it as a standard user is hard. Could you promote me to help fix it all? - DavvyParsons (talk) 22:27, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * She is the right one to ask, because though she gives nothing but trouble to this Wiki, she has power over all of us. <font color=#00FF00>ط <font color=#00FF09>ب <font color=#00FF12>ي <font color=#00FF1B>ب <font color=#00FF24>ك <font color=#00FF2D> ا <font color=#00FF37>ل <font color=#00FF42>أ <font color=#00FF5C>ل <font color=#00FF66>م <font color=#00FF77> ت <font color=#00FF88>س <font color=#00FF99>ع <font color=#00FFAA>ة <font color=#00EEAA> و <font color=#00DDAA>ت <font color=#00CCAA>س <font color=#00BBAA>ع <font color=#00AAAA>و <font color=#0099AA>ن  {PIRATE-NET} [[file:DoctorPain99.png|19px]]

Hi Davvy. Thanks for the help :) rollback won't help by the look of it, they used a couple of nicks on each page to make that more awkward. And I'd rather wait on Admin rights until things are calmer.  But hopefully one of the VSTF can help out - they have scripts to repair damage like this -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  23:19, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, what?
Any particular reason this occurred?  Penguin  of  Death   00:14, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

I also want to know of any precent for removing the rights of some (but not all) competent admins just because none of them happened to be around during a vandal attack. Toomai Glittershine 03:22, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi both. This was a bit of an emergency situation, and I removed bureaucrat, admin and rollback rights from everyone temporarily.  That included inactive admins (and even a VSTF member who had rollback here) as well as all the sock and vandal admin/b'crat rights that had been added.  This wasn't because people weren't around, this was because the situation was confused and it was safer to clear everyone quickly and look at who to add back later.  Jello Rabbit and Megatron1 have been added back so far (their admin rights had already been removed by one of the vandals), but I'm also happy to add back others who are going to be active (and non-destructive) members of this wiki.  -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  18:19, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * As the primary admin and bureaurat of SmashWiki I do not condone vandalism of our old apartment, and as such my staff rights should remain; had I not been busy with other things and seen something was going down I would have punted the offenders and fixed the damage so none of the bupkis would have happened. Also, Jello Rabbit's adminship rights were never agreed to by any community that I'm aware of (his RfA over a month ago quickly failed due to having too few edits), so I don't know why he was given admin powers. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 18:57, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm glad to hear you don't support those who vandalized. At the moment, I'm only going to replace rights of those who are actively involved here - others don't need rights they aren't using anyway.
 * Jello Rabbit's rights were originally given to him by the active bureaucrat. That's acceptable, the old community had moved on, the new one has the opportunity to choose policies and norms that suit them.  It'll take time for the new community to grow enough to the point where RfAs and so on work best. -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  23:55, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you look more closely at Special:log/rights, you can clearly see that Jello Rabbit had his adminship revoked, not by Piratehunter, but by the very person who gave it to him, Megatron1. Jello Rabbit's actions clearly showed he was incapable of adminship, and he hasn't shown differently. <font color=#00FF00>ط <font color=#00FF09>ب <font color=#00FF12>ي <font color=#00FF1B>ب <font color=#00FF24>ك <font color=#00FF2D> ا <font color=#00FF37>ل <font color=#00FF42>أ <font color=#00FF5C>ل <font color=#00FF66>م <font color=#00FF77> ت <font color=#00FF88>س <font color=#00FF99>ع <font color=#00FFAA>ة <font color=#00EEAA> و <font color=#00DDAA>ت <font color=#00CCAA>س <font color=#00BBAA>ع <font color=#00AAAA>و <font color=#0099AA>ن  {PIRATE-NET}

Megatron1

 * Can you please promote him again to bureaucrat and sysop? He is legit and has removed some spam. Jello Rabbit (talk) 11:32, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've given him his admin rights back. I'm going to hold off a little on bureaucrat rights for now, because I'd like to check before each admin is added/re-added for now.  Best to be a bit careful after this week's problems :-/ -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  18:19, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Its k. Mega was legit and I spotted this vandalism and got a team to clean it up. Did'ya know that? Jello Rabbit (talk) 19:01, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I saw that :) good for you -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog)  23:55, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

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 * Only the lowercase ones who auto-redirect to the capitals as they have no use or the mispelled, or merged words. If you have a problem with it, i'll stop. Thank you. Jello Rabbit (talk) 18:40, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I personally don't think it's needed, that redirects help people who spell things wrong to find the right page... but it's up to you :) --  sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  23:55, July 1, 2011 (UTC)