User blog comment:The shy platypi/My Super Smash Bros. Tier List: Part 2--Low-Mid Tiers (Part 1 of Mid Tiers)/@comment-6684591-20170214192449

All right, time to make a reply to this one.

I can see why you put most of the characters where you did, though I do disagree on Charizard. His poor air speed makes it difficult for him to continue combos or even get combos on opponents at mid-high percentages. Charizard lacks kill set-ups and the majority of kill moves he has are easily punished. Charizard gets punished for using a horizontal recovery move via Flare Blitz's recoil damage; yes, it has Super Armor on it, so does Fly, but Flare Blitz is high-risk low-reward move because of how easy it is to avoid and punish, whereas Fly, though difficult to gimp, has abysmal vertical reach.

Anyhow, I agree with the remainder of your placements; if it were me I'd put Charizard at the bottom of this tier with the rest of the characters above him.

I was playing some Bowser Jr. last night and man, I am terrible with this character haha. I always thought he had a lot of potential too; don't get me wrong, BJ still has plenty of great tools at his disposal. The issue is his glaring weaknesses as you mentioned. Great approach game, poor recovery. Good combo game, but easily comboed. Oh yeah, and I just recently saw some matches played by a BJ player called Hiro, if you want to check them out.

I can see why you put Mac there. Mac is fun to play as and it's really cool to watch Sol work. Mac is kind of two-faced, great on the ground, terrible in the air, this is just review, everybody knows that by now. The biggest problem for Mac is that most other characters have amazing air games compared to him, in my opinion anyways.

Pac-Man is another character that is so hype to watch. Zage is easily my favorite Pac-Man player; apparently he played SSF2 at Smash Con? I didn't realize it until I went back and watched the stream, but, yeah. The way he utilized the hydrant and fruit was unlike anything I'd ever seen before. I can't pull this stuff off with Pac because I suck, but I know this crazy stuff is possible.

Wii Fit is a weird character. She has some weird combos that somehow work. She also has a great time stalling on the ledge; it's stupid. John Numbers is a crazy guy, lol; I don't see him playing very much anymore, but maybe I'm just not looking in the right places.