User blog comment:The shy platypi/My Super Smash Bros 4 Tier List: Part 1 - Bottom and Low Tiers/@comment-6684591-20170207062708

A'ight, here comes my in-depth review of the tier list so far.

First off, 'Rollout. Just Rollout.' had me dying with laughter, lol.

I agree with your tier placements entirely thus far. I think Jiggs is the worst character in the game even though she has a good air game; I think part of the problem lies in that she is unable to combo from the air to the ground like Kirby with his dair; her range is abysmal, especially on the ground, and that makes it difficult to effectively space and poke at enemies.

Ganondorf is an absolutely beast but his speed is lacking, and something I noticed that you actually hadn't mentioned is that he is also combo food due to his tall height and decent size giving him large hurtboxes, which also hurts him. Another thing, his dash attack is actually not a bad approach option and opponents can be conditioned to expect it only to be punished with a dash grab or Flame Choke instead, which can help the predictability of his approach game, so there is that. Additionally, his Dark Dive isn't a bad OOS option because of its grab boxes which give it good priority.

I don't play as Miis much, but I can seewhere you're coming from with Mii Swordfighter; they do have low range for a swordfighter and they terrible special moves. Their poor specials hurt their recovery and leave them vulnerable to attack.

King Dedede is an absolute blast to play as, and I love Girthquake for his pure, raw skill with the character. Something you forgot to mention is that the Gordos are an outstanding combo tool, setting up for all kinds of kill moves. Dedede also has lots of options for getting kills, with transcendent and disjointed priority on his hammer and a good combo game with fast-fall nair into grab, ftilt, dtilt, or fair. Heck, even his nair has transcendent priority, which doesn't even make sense, haha. Strangely, I always thought Fox had the worst air speed and fastest falling speed in the game, but somehow King Dedede is both of those things.

Once again, I have to agree, Zelda is a ton of fun to play as; I am really bad at playing as her, but I still like to try lol. I legitimately feel like she is one of the most underappreciated characters in not just Smash 4 but in all of Smash Bros. I had not heard of Elder before, I'll have to look them up. Oh, and Zelda's jab being very fast? Last I checked she had the slowest jab in the game, coming out on frame 12; although I do agree that it is a good poking tool as it has transcendent priority and the hitboxes stay out for quite a while. She has some really cool platform and edge cancel tricks with Farore's Wind that lead into fairs or bairs that are absolute hype. And her ftilt is a freaking stupid move; that thing has some kill power behind it.

Once again, I never play as the Miis, but when I do, I play as the Mii Gunner. Stay thirsty, my friends. (Sorry I had to it was right there.) Right, so Mii Gunner, like you said, has stupid range on some moves. You actually got the move names switched up; Mii Gunner's is the Charge Blast and Samus' is the Charge Shot. I think a weakness the Mii Gunner has that you hadn't mentioned is that they also lack kill set-ups; probably the only one being fast-fall up air, which I can never do becauseIusetapjump :/

Looking forward to the rest of your tier list, I really like the way you put this together and if I ever get around to making my own tier list I will certainly be stealing your format X'D