Thread:MayhemKing/@comment-16072884-20131024024037/@comment-16072884-20131026044140

Speculation is the act of adding information that is not confirmed by an official source, and is especially problematic with prerelease information such as what you have been adding to articles. Speculation is discouraged here as it can mislead people to thinking something is true when in reality there is no way of confirming it. Saying "This move may be a reference to xxxxx" is also speculation.

"but that doesn't mean delete what's already there." Keeping the articles will lead to another page that admins have to track and more people editing them and potentially adding stuff such as speculation. Deleting them now will make things easier for senior members of the wiki to track, and the information can be added onto the character page where it should fit in fine.

"Unless you can prove that it's not speculation, it's something that should be acknowledged and understood." You are the one who will have to prove that this is right first, as you are the one presenting the new information. In your example above, the theory that the world was round did not automatically mean that the statement was correct. Scientific evidence was required to prove that the round theory was correct. It was treated as wrong until people presented the scientific evidence, where it was treated as right. You are the one declaring that the characters' attacks have certain controller inputs, and I will declare them as incorrect until you can show me an official statement by Nintendo that says that those are the controller inputs, where I will treat them as right.

"Masahiro Sakurai himself talking about the two games." In the video, Sakurai himself said almost nothing about the controller inputs of every attack. Also, something that's explicitly stated shouldn't require deductive reasoning to conclude to it. Something explicitly stated would be on the lines of Nintendo releasing an official statement saying that those are the controller inputs. You may want to think that Rush Coil is his up special move since it sends him upward, but as unlikely as it seems, it could be his down special move, and therefore we are not absolutely sure that this is his up special move, and therefore the information must not be presented as true. You may want to think that Mega Man's side tilt and neutral aerial are the Mega Buster as well, but it's possible that a new game mechanic was introduced that allowed you to jump and walk around while still using your neutral attack, and the side tilt and neutral aerial are completely different. Therefore, we cannot be sure that his side tilt and neutral aerial are the Mega Buster and the information must not be presented as true. You may want to think that the guard thing is Pit's down special, but a side special, or even an up special, down special, or neutral special, can also be performed even if you duck before using it, and a down special can be performed without ducking, so it's possible that the Upperdash Arm could be his down special. Therefore, we cannot be absolutely sure and the information must not be presented as true. You may want to think that the slingshot is Villager's back aerial because he fires it behind himself, but as unlikely as it seems, there's no reason why it could not be a neutral aerial, or forward aerial, or even an up aerial. As unlikely as it is that a forward aerial will fire behind you, we cannot be absolutely sure that this is his back aerial, and the information cannot be presented as true. You get the idea for everything else.

Therefore, the only thing that can be presented as true is that his neutral A is the Mega Buster, as Sakurai explicitly stated it.

Unless and until you can show me something where Nintendo officially states that attacks are certain controller inputs, the information cannot be regarded and presented as true.

"So...you do think I'm right~" I said that I only reverted them because they were speculation. It's entirely possible that your edits may be incorrect (which for the stuff I mentioned, its truth value cannot be determined), but I didn't revert your edits for that reason.