Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25686239-20141204164328/@comment-10979625-20141212150023

Soulephant wrote: I will have to agree with Balloon chuck. Custom moves are, for starters, rarely ever broken (I heard Flying Fortress was an exception and even then you needed Flying Slam or its other grabbing version). Second, Palutena was from day one associated with these things. There is no such thing as a "default moveset" for her.

Finally, I happened to come across a competitive Smash player, and he actually told me Custom Moves aren't banned yet. I quote but translate "They are still being tested for game-breaking". If you're going to judge based on the first move of each character, know that other (maybe better) movesets might still be legal right now.

Again, how much that would change I do not know. With 51 characters, I wouldn't have the slightest clue of tier positions even if it was my thing. And finally, I'm going to be nitpicking a little, but don't say "worst character in the game" when you only look at a single style of play. Then again, tier lists only cover a single style of play anyway.

Got to agree with this guy, http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/ssb4/

There one type of play, which is combo like hell... But tier list tend to be bias to the easier to use characters, so characters like olimar tend to have less chance of getting up in higher tiers due to the fact he is hard to play

On the other hand versatile characters, like shulk, tend to be some where in the middle of the entire thing due to the fact of them being, well, versatile

The top tier always consist of those who can combo easily, for example, in brawl the ice climbers and meta knight were both broken because of their insanely high combo strats, like the ice climbers ultimate chain grab and meta knights sword tornado spam...

So in the end the top tier is always leaning to those who can get the opponent to the highest damage in the shortest time and with the least damage... But in reality and as explained by many pros in the game, this game is the most balanced of the series and different strats can lead to different outcomes... So all in all the tier list is more of a highest percentage/combo makers in short time, so yeah.. Doesnt really matter too much..