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User Block
A user named Hippie Nixon vandalized a major page (he put "Your Mom" as a playable character). I feel this user should be warned, or perhaps blocked. --Oxico 23:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks.
Thanks for helping me to improve the 1233's wiki article, looks very-very nice, thanks =) --Dyna 22:25, January 31, 2007 (GMT)


 * You're very welcome. I'm trying to do a general cleanup of the various Smasher pages since they tend to be the most lacking in overall quality. :^)


 * -- Randall00 22:46, January 31, 2007 (GMT)

Hey thanks Randall =] We still need to do Stevo and Mike D:

--Janitor 8:45, April 30, 2007 (GMT)
 * In time, in time. And they should be listed under Steve and Mike, as per the CCSC smasher profiles they filled out. -- Randall00 Talk 19:23, April 30, 2007 (GMT)

By the way Randall, did you get my CCSC smasher profile? i believe i filled it out. =]

--Janitor 11:00, May 5, 2007 (GMT)

Sandbox
You have two user sandboxes, one at user:Randall00/Sandbox, and one at user:Randall00/sandbox. Just wanted to tell you. 19:30, February 23, 2007 (GMT)
 * Yeppers, more cleanup that requires administrative power, alas. -- Randall00 19:34, February 23, 2007 (GMT)

Wow.
How did you found out all that information on AngelCX? Is it simply because you checked out the TSA thread?

Anyway, it's pretty hot and amazing what you did there. Good stuff. --WarriorofZarona 15:56, April 5, 2007 (GMT)


 * Haha, thanks WoZ, I'm glad somebody notices the phantom poking around and studying that I do of other regional smash communities! I have a lot of admiration for The Smash Affiliates and the way you guys do things and I try and offer the same sort of philosophy at my own bi-weeklies. As to the stuff on AngelCX, I found most of the information just by viewing his posts. "Find all threads started by AngelCX" can take you pretty far when dealing with tournament directors and even the very roots of many reputable smashers can be dug up in the archived topics from the days of SWF's inception.


 * Nevertheless, the article isn't up to my own standards quite yet, as I was unable to easily track down his first name and age. :) -- Randall00 Talk 00:12, April 6, 2007 (GMT)

Template:ccsc
Hey it's Vic, for the Recurring Events in the CCSC thing you have on your page, you forgot to put CAST =(


 * Oo, good catch; fixed now, thank you! -- Randall00 Talk 18:32, April 18, 2007 (GMT)

Sig
Perhaps you wanted this?
 * Randall00 

The tags must be inside the caption, and there should be a cross in front of the numbers. 19:41, April 23, 2007 (GMT)

Circuit Stuff
Hey I don't really know how to use this, but if you'd like to talk about the Circuit stuff, feel free to PM me on Smashboards. I'd love to work with you on it. KishPrime 15:13, April 24, 2007 (GMT)


 * I'll definitely send you a message in due time. My Circuit-related work just hit a rather large hurdle, though, so it might be a little while. Thankfully, I don't think the smash community is going anywhere. -- Randall00 Talk 17:06, April 24, 2007 (GMT)

Picture
Excuse me,but i wanted to know why you have removed my picture on my Article.Is it not allowed?

Or is it forbidden to have a picture without showing yourself?

thanks Super Mari0 13:28, May 4, 2007 (GMT)

I know im not randal but I'll tell you the answer. Its a policy on Smash wiki: Smashwiki is not the place for smasher and crew banners and other advertising images.

ToXn 15:00, May 4, 2007 (GMT)


 * Yes sir, these articles are not personality profiles and regardless of how flashy the banner is, it is unencyclopedic to include it unless it happens to have a particular impact on the smash community and its history in some way. In the same respect, articles should be focused on the facts in the text portion as well without diverting too much into inside jokes and useless trivia. -- Randall00 Talk 23:09, May 4, 2007 (GMT)


 * Thers one page cybr has tons of useless triva, should i edit it? I ask because if I do something to that page regarded as "vandalism", I will be banned due to my stupidness earlier on. ToXn 16:49, May 5, 2007 (GMT)


 * Well you just have to be smart about it. Think about it as an encyclopedia articles comprised of facts. Yes, you should be bold and edit articles that you think need editing, just make sure that they follow the standard format. If you're dealing with encyclopedic information, it is never vandalism. A lot of these articles are pretty bare right now so if the information is useless, it doesn't necessarily need to be removed so long as it's true to some extent, but if the article already has a fair amount of content (Like chestterr01), it doesn't need to list all of his four-letter nicknames in point form. Ideally, we want all the articles to have a fair amount of real content, but as with cybr and all of The Slashers, really, I question whether they should exist in the first place. Realistically, a smasher who just plays at home and happens to have the internet shouldn't have a SmashWiki article just because he "hopes to attend a tournament one day." But since we can't stop the inappropriate ones from being created without a lot of headaches and administrative power, we have to at least make them as good as they can be. -- Randall00 Talk 16:16, May 6, 2007 (GMT)


 * Well I edited it anyways. And your right about the whole articles thing the guy does not even play smash anymore yet he insists on still having an article. I know about 6 other pages that should be deleted and if I actually thought about it I could think of 10 more. IS there anyway like wikipedia to recommend an article for deletion?


 * Well there's no policy in place at the moment. The problem is that it is an anti-communal sort of thing to say to go around telling people that they can't make their own articles. You can't really place a criteria on it to decide what's valid and what isn't. It might just make a lot of people angry, I don't know. Incidentally, we also now have articles like Knuckles that are turning into personality profiles....egh. -- Randall00 Talk 16:46, May 6, 2007 (GMT)

I've seen some articles with banners on them mainly http://www.smashwiki.com/wiki/Super_Smash_Mutants and the members of the crew have pictures (not of them) on thier smasher pages too. Is this considered unencyclopedic? --Insane-Contrast 23:53, May 18, 2007 (GMT)


 * Yep, those are the ones that should be removed. -- Randall00 Talk 23:27, May 20, 2007 (GMT)

Crew-Logo
Why musnt we have a crew-logo and NAS can get one? --Tham 15:31, May 22, 2007 (GMT)


 * Nobody is allowed to have a crew logo, unless of course it is actually pertinent to the encyclopedic documentation of the smash community. But that's extremely unlikely. -- Randall00 Talk 21:24, May 22, 2007 (GMT)

DoctorMarioBoy
hold on...so what exactly are you supposed to put in the alias section of the smasherbeta? For Ring Master 1337, i put "DoctorMarioBoy" because that was his smashboards account. I'm guessing i'm mistaken? --Janitor 19:38, May 26, 2007 (GMT)


 * SmashWiki:Smasher Project <- Guessing is problematic that way, yeah...besides, I'm fairly sure it was "Dr.Marioboy" anyway. Either way, I've certainly never heard of anyone by that name and if he's a significant smasher in the CCSC, odds are I'd probably know about it. -- Randall00 Talk 19:17, May 27, 2007 (GMT)

Hmm
So I take it from your user page you don't care much for the Pokemon franchise, based on your user page; While I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, it just sorta seems to me nowadays that a player in general would have to like ALL the franchises in Smash Bros. in order to fully appreciate Smash Bros. games thematically, and since I try to appreciate all the Nintendo franchises in these games, I know I'll definitely appreciate Brawl to its fullest. :) Erik the Appreciator 03:00, July 4, 2007 (EDT)


 * ...? Where do you get the notion that I don't care much for the Pokémon franchise? I've got a level 100 Oddish! :^) My only gripe with the franchise is how unimaginative and copious the sheer numbers of Pokémon creatures there are. They're running out of ideas. As a 255-hour veteran of the original Red Version, it just kinda sucks to see them go from creative designs like Scyther and Blastoise to the downright lazy "Poochyena" and "Purugly." -- Randall00 Talk 08:38, July 4, 2007 (EDT)


 * Oh! Sorry about that. The way your Mewtwo entry in your Suspected Roster Cuts was worded just gave that impression, amplified by the (obligatory of course) Pichu cut right below. Didn't occur to me you were merely an oldie-but-goodie junkie.
 * I aim to like every last one of the 493 species equally and thoroughly, and had succeeded in doing so with the third generation in recent years, though I do admit they did seem bland at first. I got to appreciating the 3rd generation Pokemon as much as the previous two by looking at all of their Pokemon card art at sites like Pokebeach.com, and also by looking at their living 3d models in GameCube games; It was almost surprising how much better fitting of the Pokemon motif they seemed afterwards. Poochyena's model and design actually makes it perhaps one of the best "common" designs around IMO. I had extremely lofty expectations for the fourth generation, and they were actually exceeded in the event; I find all of them absolutely excellent. But that's just me. :)
 * If anything's for certain, there'll be hell to pay if anyone bad-mouths my beloved Golden Sun series... when it comes out in Brawl. Mwahaha! Erik the Appreciator 13:31, July 4, 2007 (EDT)


 * Hehe, well you can like anything if you stare at it for long enough, but come on....Nosepass??? :^) -- Randall00 Talk 17:58, July 16, 2007 (EDT)
 * I like that Pokemon too because it dares to be different in the faces-er, noses of Pikachu, Togepi, the legendary birds/dogs, and other standard classics. And I judge a Pokemon's quality not just by appearance, but also by all its biological characteristics, which in Nosepass' case are quite interesting, and whatever evolutionary relations it might have make both it and its evolution more interesting. Meaning: I recently liked Nosepass a little better when it got its more interesting Probopass evolution, and currently I like Probopass better than Nosepass. (You can tell now why I gave myself this username, I'm sure. XD )Erik the Appreciator 02:20, July 17, 2007 (EDT)

Thanks!
Hey, thanks for randomly spiffying up my page; I feel rather flattered. Also, knowing how to classify my skill level ("Pro-Am") is useful as well. Zinth 23:51, July 6, 2007 (EDT)

GTM's Reply
I was just editing random stuff on the "small pages" list. You can delete them or whatever if you want, they're not my pages >_> GTM 18:14, July 30, 2007 (EDT)

Besides mine, im working on it >_> GTM 18:15, July 30, 2007 (EDT)

Umm...wtf?
You deleted my wiki. It was nice...why?

just because you made this doesn't mean people from smaller towns who are still damn good at the game can't have their own wiki.

I hope you die. I worked hard on that.

-chansen


 * If you, sir, had any idea what kind of contributions I have made to this wiki and how stunningly and embarrassingly selfish your comment is in that context, I would be more inclined to argue. However, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and offer a little tolerance for those who are ignorant of the system, rather than wish death on them when failing to consider why they might have done what they did.


 * Please see your relocated article at Chansen. -- Randall00 Talk 17:52, August 10, 2007 (EDT)

"SmashWiki is not a personal profile"
Hi there, just want to clear something up. According to this article, you said that contact information shouldn't be posted on smasher articles and they should be put in user pages instead. Is it alright, then, if when I see contact information on an article, I can remove it with no warning? Or is it just a suggestion to those who are writing their own articles and I shouldn't bother with it? --YodaMasterZ 22:34, August 10, 2007 (EDT)


 * In light of recent events, I would suggest removing it and copying and pasting it to their talk page with something like: "As per SmashWiki:Smasher Project, I have moved your contact information off of your smasher article. If you would like to restore this information, please put it on your user page. -- Randall00 Talk 22:58, August 10, 2007 (EDT)


 * Thank you, I'll keep that in mind. In the future, would you rather I not delete my own entries if somebody else answers it? --YodaMasterZ 23:07, August 10, 2007 (EDT)

You put 'LunInSpectra' twice in your future projects
Just lettting you know - Insane-Contrast 23:08, August 10, 2007 (EDT)
 * Haha, thanks, I'll try to resist writing it twice! -- Randall00 Talk 02:00, August 11, 2007 (EDT)

My Page
No, but I wish I was.--Aipom for Brawl--

Hello.
What did you mean by putting "iiiiiiiinnnnteresting" on my clan's page?

-ethanrodgers223


 * It's not an article. It looks like one thanks to the built-in wiki formatting and page header titles, but it's really just a personal homepage pretending to be an article.


 * More specific? Well the History page is inarguably pitiful and reads like an interview/customer testimonial where the interviewee doesn't say anything and passively mentions how the "clan" "seems" to continue growing. The article goes on to mention the current number of members, presently sitting at 34, and then lists a grand total of 15, 9 of which have an asterisk beside their name with a legend at the bottom that says: "'*'"User is validating." ....wtf?


 * Moving right along, we jump immediately into the Comic section without any clarification about the sharp inconsistency between number of members or what "validation" exactly means. This comic thing you've got going sounds really good and interesting from a community point of view, actually, and it belongs on a SmashWiki crew article. However, it doesn't explain what the comic is and the entire section only makes sense if you're a member of this crew; even then, I'm sure at least one of the 34 members would be able to see how transparent and immature the writing is. After all, the fact that the clan members are the "stars" is not a "feature," nor is the fact that Luni a "notable" member, regardless of how many times he uses the word "blarg" in the story. And what's this "note from the author"? "Expect ninjas and giant demon pokemon soon"?? This isn't a news website and this isn't the place to go for your comic updates; it's an encyclopedia.


 * But wait, there's more!!! It seems that on August 24th of 2007, Omneox of Smash created an alliance with Dawn Patrol.....first of all, what the hell does that even mean? The Dawn Patrol article even mentions how half the people in that crew had forgotten that this "alliance" offering was even on the table. Then apparently it was "made official"--how? when? why? I would be stunned if you could show me 34 people who even know about it, never mind 15 who could answer any of those questions.


 * Then there's this mysterious little "Success" section, as though all 34 of you have been huddling around the DOJO spamming the Refresh button and determining whether or not this hypothetical idea of a clan that doesn't exist will be a success or a failure. The only piece related to the "clan" is four team pairings, three of which contain the same player, meaning that only two of these team pairings could possibly compete against one another. When in reality, the game hasn't even come out yet and the whole "Success" section is really nothing more than an announcement of Wi-Fi multiplayer support for Brawl. Which everyone already knows about.


 * My tone is critical, yes, and you're probably already getting defensive but I assure you, it's nothing personal. Your article is not even CLOSE to being the worst, but it's still not an encyclopedia article and I only went off on a tangent in the hopes of clarifying why and hopefully improving it in the future. Most of the writers at SmashWiki are not really writers; instead, they're smashers and unfortunately for the SmashWiki, a lot of smashers are a bunch of teenagers who don't have a lot of experience writing publication quality material for the masses.


 * The most important thing to remember when making or editing an article is that the article is for EVERYONE, not just the people in your town, not just the crew members, but everyone. So, once you've done your editing, read the article again, but think as if you didn't write it and you are reading it for the first time. Read Omneox of Smash with that mentality and you can see that it doesn't really tell you anything at all. SmashWiki is an information source for smashers, just as Wikipedia is an information source for people. On the English Wikipedia, even simple articles like Laughter explain the subject of laughing so that any English-speaking person can understand what it is, even if they've never heard of it. On SmashWiki, the article should be able to explain itself so that any English-speaking smasher can understand what it's about...even if they've never heard of it. I'm an English-speaking smasher and I had never heard of the Omneox of Smash before reading your article. Now I've heard of it, but I still don't understand what it is based on the information provided. And it's not because I'm an idiot; it's because the article fails.


 * Also, sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). It's good wiki protocol. :^) -- RJM Talk 15:42, October 3, 2007 (EDT)


 * -- RJM Talk 15:42, October 3, 2007 (EDT)

OF COURSE I'm going to critical! I'm sorry, but you have to be one of the most rude persons I've ever talked to. All I wanted to know was maybe you thought it was interesting or not, not go off into some unessessary page of mind-bogiling blows.

You think we just wait around the DOJO, clicking refresh? First of all, I don't even have a computer, I use my Wii browser, and it's kinda hard to set things up and type things out letter by letter. Besides, what else is their to put? We haven't had any experiences with crew battles or anything, because brawl hasn't even released yet.

Validating means they have sent our site( freewebs.com/omneox) an application, and then the leaders will dertimine wether or not they make it. When SSBB is released, we will play a couple of matches with them, via online, and based on their offense, defense, etc. mmmmmmmkk?

The reason the article was created was just to get prepared. Also, Omneox was first introduced on smashboards, which, and I know you will, search for it on the site. Our thread was closed, so we don't have much publicity. Yes, it is because your an idiot. (N.O.) It clearly states in the first paragraph:

Omneox Of Smash (or OOS for short) is a gaming crew primarily dedicated to the Super Smash Bros. franchise. The members are spread vastly among the globe, making actual gameplay difficult. They relate mostly through discussing the series on SmashBoards, and hope to be more closely connected through the confirmed online play in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. They plan on playing with and against each other casually and competitively. The crew is currently allied with Dawn Patrol.

That's everthing you need to know. The rest of the article just goes into futher detail. And DON'T use the word "teenager" the way you do, considering you are one yourself. Unless your some creepy 40 year old man.

I haven't updated this articles of the current members yet, because, once again, I have no computer. If you would be so kind as to go to our forums and put the members on there, then we wouldn't have a problem, would we. Heh, I thought we could have been friends. --


 * Dude...whoa! :^) We don't have a problem, I already said it's nothing personal and I'm just telling you what's wrong with the article. Now the only person dealing blows is you calling me an idiot for not being able to understand what a gaming crew that doesn't actually play games is supposed to be and why it deserves a spot in competitive smash history. As to the "teenager" remark, I don't mean it disparagingly, but what I say is valid: most of them are not prepared to be writing encyclopedic material. Many adults are just as bad, but generally have a better sense of what's worth posting and what's going to die a slow death on an underviewed page on the internet.


 * No need to get all touchy and defensive just as I predicted, it's not really an argument you can win. Especially when failing to acknowledge the wide scope of individuals that lie between the spectrum of "teenager" and "40 year old man." -- RJM Talk 03:09, October 10, 2007 (EDT)

deletion
the validity of the cloud page is very unlikely. it just seems like a personal nickname and does not deserve it's own article. also, stop deleting pages that simply need clean-up. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 17:56, October 14, 2007 (EDT)


 * I would've said the same thing about the cloud page when I first came to SmashWiki, but since doing so, I've been surprised at how pervasive the phenomenon is, with players all across Canada and down into some of the northern states like Pennsylvania. When I went to TransCanada to meet and network with a variety of community players, it was actually quite remarkable how well the name had stuck within smaller communities. Hehe, I mean, ultimately I don't care one way or another about the article, but to delete it when there's piles and piles of more important work to be done is just unnecessary policing of an unwritten policy. There's something to be said for the character and lifeblood of the global smash community when certain bits of unofficial lingo catch on like that. It represent a unique wholeness of common interest that I feel deserves to be documented. :^)


 * And believe me, I wish I could delete pages that "simply need cleanup", but alas, all I can do is mark them for deletion and then have to deal with the comments from the authors who take it personally when the material isn't pertinent to an encyclopedia. -- RJM Talk 23:25, October 14, 2007 (EDT)

What the hell?
Why did you delete all of the new content from the Brawl article? Everything has been seen plain as day in impression videos, and it has sources on their respective pages. You just erased about an hour's worth of work without thinking! -Thores 22:07, October 14, 2007 (EDT)


 * You're going to have to be more specific (and probably learn a thing or two about the way a wiki works). I don't recall deleting all of the new content from anything, frankly. I seem to remember removing a Little Mac reference once, owing to the fact that there doesn't seem to be any confirmation of that whatsoever. In any case, it's impossible to "delete" an hour's worth of work without thinking on a wiki, as all edits are stored in the 'history' section of the page. -- RJM Talk 23:27, October 14, 2007 (EDT)
 * Seeing as there's no "revert/undo" option, it's a bit more of a pain to replace information here than most other wikis. And you didn't just remove the Little Mac reference, you also removed all the new items revealed in the demo (and those items DID have sources in their respective articles before you did so), and you also deleted Assist Trophies BESIDES Little Mac that did have sources (Jill and I think one other), and Poke Balls shown in the demo (though I think out of the ones you deleted, only Gardevoir had a source, so no big deal there). The point is that all took a lot of collective time to type from the combined contributors that put up the information, and then you erase it all without even checking for proof first, or bringing it up in the talk page. Yes, I can go back in the history and just copy/paste the stuff you deleted, but I shouldn't have had to. Please don't be so hasty in making your edits next time. -Thores 23:34, October 14, 2007 (EDT)
 * Listen, Thores, I know how to use discretion with my edits, but when piddling around on an article that a whole bunch of people are watching like a hawk and making ridiculous changes to on a daily basis, it's not surprising that more got deleted than I may have intended. But it's VERY SIMPLE to revert and undo changes. Exhibit A: The only edit I made on the whole article ever!


 * By clicking on Revision as of 11:08, October 14, 2007, it will take you to the older version of the article just prior to the changed I made. From there, select the handy-dandy "edit" tab from the top and VOILA! Mission comprete! I'll save you the trouble this time around, but thanks for pointing out the incorrect deletions. The only ones that I intentionally deleted were Little Mac and the Jill reference from Drill Dozer, so I have no idea what happened to the rest of them. Either way, it's a simple fix and nothing to get too riled up about.


 * You've taught me a valuable lesson though...I'm never editing a Brawl-related article again until the game's out already, Jesus! Can't do anything without upsetting a bunch of impatient fans. It's just a little depressing that of all the 800-some useful community-related edits I've contributed to this website, the only thing that gets noticed to be a big deal is some shoddy, unimportant change to a Brawl article. Ah well, the train keeps on rollin'. -- RJM Talk 23:48, October 14, 2007 (EDT)
 * Gee, thanks for informing little old me, but I already knew that, as evidenced by the following taken from my last reply: "Yes, I can go back in the history and just copy/paste the stuff you deleted, but I shouldn't have had to." That's all I was trying to say. And I DO notice all the contributions you make to this Wiki, and it's definitely appreciated because I know I wouldn't be able to contribute to the Smash-community-centric articles half as efficiently as you do. Which is partially why this particular edit annoyed me. You're usually a lot more careful and precise than that, so this seemed... out of character for you. If anyone else had done it, I'd probably just edit the stuff back in and go back to business. Anyways, yes, I see now that I've overreacted, but I'd still appreciate it if you took the condescending tone elsewhere next time. -Thores 00:17, October 15, 2007 (EDT)


 * Again, no copying and pasting is required, but right, I mean nothing by the tone, I'm just getting really tired of this crap on my talk page, because it encompasses such a small portion of what I actually put time into. Not your fault and nothing personal, but I can only dress up my public relations for the audience as a whole for so long before actually trying to make a point. Too many anonymous warriors on the internet try to use condescending tones against me just to try and win over the argument with aggression, whereas I prefer to supply some logic along with it. Messages tend to get lost when things start looking like insults, so I try to avoid them; but like I said, I can only be pushed so hard. -- RJM Talk 01:34, October 15, 2007 (EDT)

Smash Trophy
i totally blanked out and forgot that i have a free assignment in my 3D Art class. i have access to a wood shop and a metal shop. if you're interested, i can make something out of that. it will take more time and cost more, but i think it'll turn out quite nicely. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 17:16, October 22, 2007 (EDT)


 * Time is running short, so it really depends on how quickly it could be completed and what it would cost. It's for a tournament in the middle of December, which is already a pretty high-budget event. I've anticipated having to make the trophy on my own, but let me know the details! :^) -- RJM Talk 17:22, October 22, 2007 (EDT)


 * alas, metal doesn't look very likely. i tried to weld today and was intimidated by lighting the freakin' torch. i think it's safer for me to stick with wood &/or clay. middle of December doesn't look too good. that's when i start my break. but feel free to contact me for future pieces! FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 20:31, October 23, 2007 (EDT)

Thanks
Thanks I appreciate Your support for the SSF article. Have you played it yet? The Chosen 11:05, October 23, 2007 (EDT)


 * No I haven't. Mostly because the article doesn't link to the game at all! :^) I'll have to run a search for it later on to give it a whirl. -- RJM Talk 12:34, October 23, 2007 (EDT)

this is ethan, why did u change my skill level???!!! Don't edit my page, please.
 * "Please note that all contributions to SmashWiki may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then don't submit it here." See here for reasoning. Also, signing your comments with four tildes ( ~ ) is a good start to life in the wiki. -- RJM Talk 09:26, October 24, 2007 (EDT)

Did you notice no one answered my question at the bottom of your link?

And thank you for trying to help my Omneox Of Smash page, but you put plenty of incorrect information....such as the members.

Ethanrodgers223 14:20, October 24, 2007 (EDT)


 * What question under what link? I do a lot on here.


 * With regards to Omneox Of Smash, I didn't put any "incorrect" information, I put all of the information I could find in the hopes of not confusing a reader who comes to see the article. SmashWiki is not a homepage and therefore is not the primary source of any information. It all has to be referenced elsewhere. Earlier on this very same talk page, you said this:


 * "'If you would be so kind as to go to our forums and put the members on there, then we wouldn't have a problem, would we.'"


 * I registered an account on your forums, explored the main website portion very thoroughly and, as you requested, "put the members" on your article, as per the member list on your webpage. I also had earlier questions about your "validation" procedure, which was previously unexplained on the SmashWiki article; much to my surprise, there's no explanation on the official page either! In fact, the only explanation for what it takes to be a "validated" member is the one provided on this talk page, in the form of a sarcastic reply as though it should've been common knowledge. It's interesting to me that you would reference the "members" portion of the article as the incorrect part of my edits, when previously it listed 34 members and only listed 15. I have to assume that this number was pulled from the total list of registered members on your forums which is NOT the same thing and if it were, then the only "validation" required to join is to have a functional e-mail address. Hopefully your rebuttal doesn't come back to the number of forum users versus actual crew members, but just in case it does, there's a simple solution by including stats related to forum activity in a separate part of the article. -- RJM Talk 16:31, October 24, 2007 (EDT)

About Sheik...
Apparently, you believe that Sheik will not appear becuase Sheik only appeared in OoT, correct? So did Farore's Wind and Din's Fire (and used by Link, not Zelda), and we've seen Zelda use those in Brawl. Just because we've seen nothing of Sheik doesn't mean that Sheik won't be in. I mean, why else would they not have Zelda as a playable character in the recent demo version? To hide the new Sheik, obviously. I'm not trying to personally attack you here, but I see that you don't think that Sheik will get into Brawl, and you want to delete the SSBB article on her (even though Ganondorf (SSBB) simply has an "unverified claims" tag). I simply want to reason with you on why Sheik (SSBB) should not be deleted without Ganondorf (SSBB) or why neither should be deleted. Teamrocketspy621 15:28, October 24, 2007 (EDT)


 * I believe they both should be deleted until someone actually knows what's going on. Or rather, I suppose my true belief is that they shouldn't have been created in the first place based on such sloppy information and whereas I believe Ganondorf will return and Sheik will not, I never re-tagged the Sheik article after creating Template:Speculation specifically for inclusion on Ganon's article. I have no problem doing that; just a little surprised that the Sheik crusade called me on it! :^) The bigger problem at hand is that while it's probably true that there's no reason to delete an article that is likely to exist (like Captain Falcon (SSBB)), there isn't exactly a lot of actual deletion going on at SmashWiki. Therefore, articles that have no place even from a speculative point of view (see: North Pole) create an enormous amount of clutter that will create an equally enormous amount of work for SysOps (if they get around to hiring anymore), or just die a slow junk mail/spam-style internet death (if they don't). It can be frustrating to invest time into the quality control of a community-written website only to realize that without likeminded individuals in the administrative seat, you really have no control over the consistency of your contributions.


 * On a lighter note, I also have a slightly skewed bias against Sheik, as I believe she is a lifeless, androgynous half-character that has no business being one of the strongest and simplest playable figures in Melee, cheapening the countless hours of training invested by more technical players who industriously work to perfect their game just to get fair'd in the face. So forgive me, but as a Luigi player, it is my duty to use every fighting breath I have to prevent Sheik from ever coming back...even if it is only in the form of a garish pink delete tag! :^) Thanks for the comments. -- RJM Talk 16:06, October 24, 2007 (EDT)


 * Thanks for understanding. I tried my best not to sound rude, and I'm glad that we can agree on this conundrum. Agreed, it does make sense not to delete likely pages, but there's the whole "speculation" thing, and how something likely won't necessarily happen. Teamrocketspy621 19:26, October 24, 2007 (EDT)

What's Down? XD
Hey I have just Remove the Frase and Comedy section in my page, can you tell me the other things that I need to fix? (Like Grammar errors)? --Fandangox 20:43, October 26, 2007 (EDT)

Haha
Thanks for going around fixing my stuff randall, I appreciate it :D SleepyK 21:14, October 30, 2007 (EDT)

Lol, didn't know that at first. thankyou for your support.

"insane gayness"
thanks for the edit about the gayness :D it sounds alot better ^^ and propably half of the people reading it wont understand :D--

You should learn to sign your comments Yomi. --$hYne 17:54, November 10, 2007 (EST)

Some ideas
Hey RJM ima copy some of your ideas in order to create a decent Bi-weekly and smash circuit article, i hope you dont mind. If you do please let me know. P.S. Great sc template ;) --$hYne 11:06, November 11, 2007 (EST)


 * Please do! I'm a community-oriented sorta guy and I'm always happy to see more competitive structure get built into smash. It's lookin' pretty good so far, keep it up. :^) -- RJM Talk 13:32, November 11, 2007 (EST)

Lol
Well this time i was right. huh?

0.0
An alias can harm the wiki rally? I didn't know that, how can an alias harm a wiki (unless have an inslut), and about the 4 members I read something about that in the forums.--Fandangox 21:07, November 18, 2007 (EST)


 * Template:smasherbeta -- The "aliases" listed were only gamer tags and the alias field on that template is built specifically for gamers who are known by two different names. For example, in earlier smash circles, Isai often competed and was known by Malva00, and so it appears in his table. A bunch of nubs changing their tag in-game every second match is not the same thing. :^) As a further example, I compete under RJM, but I registered on the forums as Randall00 long before I was a competitor. Because I organized local tournaments through the forums, a lot of people came to know me as "Randall00", and so it appears in my alias field as well despite not actually being my competitive name. -- RJM Talk 21:12, November 18, 2007 (EST)
 * Ah then sorry for that, I don't speak to much english and form where I'm from an alias is a nickname.--Fandangox 21:16, November 18, 2007 (EST)

Congrats
And welcome to the club :) --nealdt 22:14, November 28, 2007 (EST)
 * YOU ARE A SYSOP NOW! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? -I'M GOING TO MY HOUSE AND WATCH TOY'S STORY - OH BOY! TOY'S STORY CAN I COME? - HELL YEAH! well seriously congratulation randal now you are a sysop.--Fandangox 22:17, November 28, 2007 (EST)


 * Congrats Randall, you really earned it. -- –  Janitor  ( Talk  &bull;  Contribs ) 18:35, November 29, 2007 (EST)

About time, you obviously deserved it. Congrats on the position! 19:35, November 29, 2007 (EST)

Way to go, Randall. Knew you'd get the promotion. =D Teamrocketspy621 19:55, November 29, 2007 (EST)

Gannondorf
Why did you delete the page for Gannondorf? It seems odd that a character in Super Smash Bros. Melee couldn't have a page. I may be wrong, though I've searched to look for a page of him. -Thedude3445
 * Uh, his name is actually spelled Ganondorf. Some people add that extra n for reasons I will never understand. Teamrocketspy621 16:43, December 4, 2007 (EST)
 * The delete page redirected to a non-existent page that I assume was once a page for a smasher who deliberately misspelled the name. As Teamrocketspy pointed out, the page for Ganondorf is alive and well. -- RJM Talk 16:56, December 4, 2007 (EST)
 * Hm, now that I think about it, maybe Gannondorf ought to redirect to Ganondorf. I think I'll go do that now. Teamrocketspy621 17:15, December 4, 2007 (EST)

AME results
Hey, hit me up on AIM (neal yung) next time you're online. I might be able to help recover your AME results. --nealdt 16:39, December 19, 2007 (EST)

Deletion
Hey, I recently found out you deleted "The Rape Staff" Article I had made. Though I'm not going to argue for it to be put back on. I will say that you were half right in deleting it, but half wrong as well. So instead of arguing, I feel more inclined to at least get back the information we had put into the article. Would that be possible? Elysium

Crystal_lucario
I don't know how to ban, so I ask you. Can you please ban User:Crystal_lucario? I have written the reasons on his talkpage. - User:King M 27th December 2007 15:03 (GMT +01)

Cut it out seriously your vandalizing! ~Crystal_Lucario 09:14, December 27, 2007 (EST)


 * You can't ban, as you're not a sysop.
 * None of what either of you have done is vandalism; learn the difference.
 * Don't be ridiculous; you don't campaign for someone's banning over a little disagreement and minor edit war. Both of you need to stop acting so immature over this issue. – EP (Talk &bull; Edits) 09:17, December 27, 2007 (EST)

Omneox=Odyssey
Hey!

Its Ethan again.

I was wondering if you could edit the article "Omneox Of Smash" based of the information from our new forums: www.z3.invisionfree.com/The_Odyssey

See, Omneox fell apart. People started leaving, and a SWF user named RDK(Red Darkstar Kirby) logged onto my site (Omneox Forums) and deleted everything...so, most of my members panicked and left, so I just created a new crew. Called "Odyssey."

So, can you change it? Please? Ethanrodgers223 20:26, December 30, 2007 (EST)


 * I didn't write the article in the first place, so it's not exactly my responsibility to keep it up to date; that rests with you. Though, the fact that someone was able to log into your website and delete everything is further evidence that this crew of yours never really existed in the first place. Giving it a new name and hoping the "members" will come back probably won't change this.


 * Every article should have a move tab in the upper right hand corner beside "edit" and "history" and all that. Move Omneox Of Smash to The Odyssey and then update the information accordingly. *thumbs up* -- RJM Talk 14:48, December 31, 2007 (EST)

Template
I need help creating Template:Crewbeta. can you help? --


 * It's on my to-do list, yes. But it would be at Template:Crew, more likely.-- RJM Talk 20:13, January 5, 2008 (EST)
 * That was one of my ideas, it is in thr pool room section, at least someone listent to me.--Fandangox 14:26, January 5, 2008 (EST)


 * I moved it to Template:Crew. Feel free to continue dev there. =) --Sky (t | c | w ) 03:00, January 23, 2008 (EST)

Hippochinfat still at it
Still vandalizing and flaming despite your warning. Magiciandude 16:20, January 11, 2008 (EST)


 * He's also banned at SWF... time for him to go bye-bye. Also, don't forget about Special: Contributions/Hutsetsugen!. – EP (Talk &bull; Edits) 18:55, January 11, 2008 (EST)

User: Billy Kong
He have been replacing the Tier List article with == Tier List Don't exist!== I thing we should warn him, or if he do it again, ban him, Oh and yiu have something in your "to do list" that I can do? Its been quite a while since I really helped this wiki.--Fandangox 18:43, January 11, 2008 (EST)


 * No use warning him, take a look at his contributions page. He's obviously only interested in vandalizing SmashWiki so away he should go... – EP (Talk &bull; Edits) 18:56, January 11, 2008 (EST)

Wiki issues
I think the site have some connection problems and issues, some users cannot upload images and take to much time to load the site, Two weeks ago my pc didt let me enter to the site. is this happening to everyone?--Fandangox 17:23, February 2, 2008 (EST)


 * Yes. This is related to the very same lag issues they are suffering at Smash World Forums, as the two websites are hosted on the same server. Due to the anticipation of Brawl's release, there's been extremely high traffic at the boards and it's been putting a lot of stress on the servers. That's actually a big part of the reason why I haven't been doing as much wiki work as usual. The boards are working well today, but I haven't heard as to whether or not they've found a permanent fix quite yet. -- RJM Talk 11:13, February 3, 2008 (EST)
 * Thanks, I didnt know that the servers could suffer the same issues.--Fandangox 13:21, February 3, 2008 (EST)

Email change?
I'd like my email address changed, please.

From John_93@dbzmail.com

To wolfdonnell@yahoo.com

(Lavaris 02:55, February 4, 2008 (EST))


 * Hi there! Actually, your SmashWiki e-mail address and account are all tied to your Smash World Forums account. To change your e-mail, go to your User CP at SmashBoards and choose "Edit Email & Password" from the column on the left. If you're logged in already, just click here! -- RJM Talk 09:51, February 4, 2008 (EST)

MediaWiki:Newarticletext
It eems to be some problem with the special pages Newarticletext and Namespace Number MediaWiki. Can you fix it? 17: 41 (GMT +01) 7th February 2008


 * Was this all fixed before I noticed it? I don't really understand what the problem is. Where did all those templates come from anyway? Is there still an issue? -- RJM Talk 22:21, February 8, 2008 (EST)

Email
I did what you said to do. However, my email is still the undesired one. Even after I changed it. Could you please edit it here for me? (Lavaris 22:49, February 8, 2008 (EST))

Please
Please change my email Randall..I did at SWF already, and my email is still the unprefered one at SmashWiki.

(Lavaris 03:34, February 13, 2008 (EST))


 * I'm still looking into that one, sorry man. It's not actually within my power; I'm pretty sure I would need to have access to the raw files on the server which is still well above me. I've left a message with the administration to look into it and haven't heard back yet, but I'll stay on top of it and let you know. :^) -- RJM Talk 23:02, February 13, 2008 (EST)

Thank you Randall. (Lavaris 00:04, February 24, 2008 (EST))

Layout?
Do you mind if I use the layout on your userpage for my page? (Lavaris 00:05, February 24, 2008 (EST))

Tech VS Ukemi
How come you changed it back? I figured we went by official Dojo names for moves and techniques. (When there are official names, anyway.) FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 05:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It was a double-redirect. --Randall00 23:10, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, YOU re coming back
OK I also didnt like the merge, but I'm getting used to it, dont tell me you will never comeback.--Fandangox 01:27, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * oh wait I got confused, you were quoting someone else?--Fandangox 01:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. I agreed. This merge is the most insulting thing Smash World has ever done to me, and that's saying something. --Randall00 12:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe you are exagerating??? that cannot be the worst thing. This is just a stupid merge, if you are never comingback that's your (stupid) choice.--Fandangox 13:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That is my comment <.<' Now I'm kinda embarrased...Sorry I don't know how to spell if embarrased is spelt wrong... --User:Crystal_lucario 11:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Your comment is valid, I don't see why you would be embarrassed. I can remove it if you like, but it expresses my sentiments pretty well. --Randall00 21:14, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No it's fine...~Crystal 15:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * awwww come here let me hug you guys (>'.')>. Hey you guys are acting like if they would have somewhat insulted you, is just a merging of two wikis, that's it, if you ask me, the only downside to the merge is that everyone can edit it now (more vandalism) the wiki is just as always.--Fandangox 19:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * All you're doing by saying these things is proving that you have no concept of what SmashWiki was and what went into it before this merge. It is inarguably insulting to the creators. --Randall00 03:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hug back (^'.')^ lol. And the merge did insult me. It is so insulting with all the Spam and me hating wikia(Mainly because of Spam) (no offense(DONT BANZ MEZ! ^(0.o^) lol. Wikia is not the gov.)) and all that...~Crystal 19:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * There's no point in trying to convince you more, its obvious that you guys wont change your mind. (thanks for hugging back :))--Fandangox 21:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Would you please get all this "hug me, hug back" crap off my talk page, please? It's great that you don't take this seriously, but you didn't lose half the crap I did and I don't appreciate people who don't know what they're talking about coming on here and telling me that I'm exaggerating and everything is just as it was but with MOAR. --Randall00 03:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Petition to unmerge! Sign!~Crystal 21:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That's nice and all Randall, but the problem is that you just left a quoted and no explanations, people will get the wrong impressions you should atleast give a reason.
 * I'm not going to sit and write a multi-page diatribe explaining why this was a bad idea. It is very clear to me that I've already wasted an awful lot of my writing on SmashWiki and my participation from here on out encompasses little more than ensuring that the competitive community's articles are not destroyed and that my own contributions remains relatively intact until I reserve some time to port them off the wiki.

Randall, if I might enter, KingKirby was able to salvage the watchlists from SmashWiki, so if you're still concerned about that, leave him a talk page message or a pm. --Sky (t · c · w) 21:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, Sky, the wiki is yours (if this really is what you call a "dream come true"). Smash World does not deserve my skill set. And before we get some more randoms coming in here telling me "it's just a merge!", please note that this is only one administrative folly in a series of them that have continually pushed me further and further away from Smash World over the last two years, despite my steadily increasing level of support and input. --Randall00 02:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh, I wasn't asking for opinions, only telling you that you can get your watchlist back, as I was fairly certain that was one of the items you were mad about. I'll leave you to yourself now. :) --Sky (t · c · w) 04:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Wazzup dude!
Just seeing how you doing. Zmario 21:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hehe, interesting time to ask, so in the interest of not giving you more information than you need to know, we'll just say I'm doing better than I was two days ago. --Randall00 02:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Random...~Crystal

What's up, Randall? I know we've had some rough times since I first created my account, but I just wanted to let you know that I'm sorry for anything I could've done to offend you or anybody else. I'm usually not that obnoxious, but these last few days have been a little stressful. Anyway, I'm just hoping that you can forgive me for any wrongdoings. Hopefully, we can leave all that tension behind us and move on. What do you say? Truce? - GalaxiaD 01:10, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about it, dude, I don't even really remember exactly what you did because nothing that I do on SmashWiki is personal by any means--if there's no war, there's no need for a truce. Moreover, I admire that despite anything wrong that you feel you may have done wrong, you are still willing to contribute and make this the best it can be. Showing the initiative to improve and contribute is very valuable and although you shouldn't feel the need to apologize to me, I recognize that as a respectable trait nonetheless--it sure is better than the hoards of people I've had to work with who refuse to even admit when they are wrong. I apologize if what I've said across the board in the last little while comes off sounding a little bitter and angry, but that's generally how I feel about this merge in the first place. I never would've been making this many unintentional enemies if it didn't happen. Keep at it! --Randall00 07:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Cool. I'm glad we were able to clear all that up. I'm not the type who goes out trying to make enemies out of everybody, and holding grudges can get nasty, so I just wanted to make sure you didn't hate me or anything. Now that I know that you don't, I won't have to watch my back anymore when I'm walking the streets at night (LOL). Anyway, I just wanted to say that you are a very knowledgable person, and despite what the merge may have done to you, you should keep doing a great job here at SmashWiki as well. Keep up the good work, Randall! - GalaxiaD 00:48, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

What's Up?
How are you doing, Randall? We haven't spoken in a while, so I decided to catch up on a few things with you. I'm doing fine. Just hanging around and doing my thing, you know? Keep on smashing and keep it real. - GalaxiaD (talk) 05:26, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Ike and Galaxia
I didn't realise that we weren't allowed to disuss sysop nominations on talk pages, or hold long conversations on talk pages. And I'm not gonna nominate myself, I thought i made that pretty clear...Ike6481 (talk) 18:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't say anything of the sort. What I said was, you have your conversation fragmented across two talk pages instead of leaving it on one (like this). ALL of your conversations are like that, which makes them very confusing to read. Read the heading that I have at the top of this page. Using your watchlist keeps discussions all in one place instead of having to bounce across a bunch of different talk pages trying to piece together a conversation. -- RJM Talk 18:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Right, I see. So have all our convos on one talk page. I then asume it would be illegal to creat apage just for the prpose of our conversation? Right, I'll bear your comments in mind. Sorry, for making it confusing, for you and whoever else may decide to read it. Ike6481 (talk) 18:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, you don't need to create a page just for the purpose of your conversation--that's what the talk page is for in the first place! Your entire conversation with Galaxia should just be on one talk page under its own heading, just like this one, that's all. -- RJM Talk 18:29, 21 June 2008 (UTC)