User blog comment:TheFoolisherFoolishFool/What happened to Lucas?/@comment-10733804-20140922013747/@comment-25161957-20140928043943

...Uh. I never said that Lucas had a unique moveset. I clearly stated that Lucas does have similarities to Ness. And let's be honest, how many moves does Lucas ACTUALLY HAVE that look and are EXACTLY THE SAME. Zero. Unlike any of the other ones (apart from Fox and Wolf).

Also, "most of his moves"? Don't you mean only his special attacks (and GUESS WHAT? All of them have different forms of utility. I refuse to explain how.), his neutral combo (I laugh whenever I type that Lucas' neutral combo is "similar" to Ness as Ness' three hit combo is a copy-paste of Mario's three hit combo. Also, using this logic, every character with a three hit combo is a clone and that's laughable.), his down tilt, his side smash and his up aerial? Because... that ain't "most of his moves".

Height and speed are not factors that determine clones. That is the same as stating that character's are not clones because they deal more damage or knockback (Link/Toon Link, Captain Falcon/Ganondorf, Mario/Dr. Mario. Yes. Dr. Mario has a slightly larger damage output). Also, as seen by this screenshot. Lucas is FASTER than Ness (even though this statement is redundant, I am stating it anyway because too bad.). Lucas also has faster falling speed (Yes. It is a factor.) Do you want me to screenshot this too? I have no need to prove this too.

Also, Lucas and Ness have a lot of differences compared to Mario and Luigi from data. Just because they have the same jump height and weight does NOT mean that "Oop. They're clones. End of story." It is evident that despite being a semi-clone, Lucas had thought put into his gameplay. Just like Wolf (I don't play Star Fox so I don't really care about Wolf all that much...)

"Clones are a waste of space in the game." I completely agree. Thank you for saying something intelligent. However the game makers completely ignored this when making SSB4 when they added three copy-paste clones and took away two semi-clones that had thought put into their moveset. Not cool guys. Not cool.

Also, I kind of did not understand what you were saying near the end of your argument. Sorry about that. I really don't see how a character can become an extra song in any way possible. I did not understand that part.